Nomadic Collective Creation
As part of the “Biennale Hors Norme”, Lyon
September 15-23
At the Grandes Voisines,
Lyon Conservatoire National Supérieur de Musique et de Danse,
and Lyon II « Lumière » University,
Review of observations from workshops organized by
l’Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p
Texts by Joris Cintéro, Jean-Charles François
and
Giacomo Spica Capobianco and Sébastien Leborgne for Cra.p
l’Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p
and
Giacomo Spica Capobianco and Sébastien Leborgne for Cra.p
Translation from French by Jean-Charles François.
Summary :
Part I: The Projet of the Orchestre National Urbain « Nomadic Collective Creation »
1.1 The project of the Orchestre National Urbain
1.2 Period of Preparation of the Project
Part II : The Grandes Voisines
2.1 Workshops at the Grandes Voisines
2.2 The Collective Workshop « Sound Laboratory » at the Grandes Voisines
2.3 Cello/Painting Workshop at the Grandes Voisines
2.4 Trombone Workshop at the Grandes Voisines
Part III : The Project at the Lyon CNSMD
3.1 Meetings during the Project
3.2 The « Sound Laboratoery » Workshop at the CNSMDL
3.3 The Human Beat-Box Workshop
3.4 Public Presentation of the Work in the Conservatorium Court yard.
3.5 Reviewing the project on October 10, 2023 at the Lyon CNSMD
Part IV : The Projet at Lyon II « Lumière » University
4.1 Morning of September 31 at Lyon II University
4.2 The Workshops at Lyon II University
4.3 The Workshop « Sound Laboratory » in the Lyon II University Amphitheatre
4.4 The Public Presentation of the Work at Lyon II « Lumière » University
Part V : The Aesthetic Framework of the Idea of Collective Creation
Conclusion
Part I : The projet of the Orchestre National Urbain,
“Nomadic Collective Creation”
In the following article, we describe in a deliberately personal account of how we perceived the process during the workshops organized by the “Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p as part of the “Nomadic Collective Creation” project. This project took place on September 15-21, 2023, as part of the “Biennale Hors Norme” at the Grandes Voisines in Francheville near Lyon, the Lyon Conservatoire National Sipérieur de Musique et de Danse (CNSMD) and the Lyon II « Lumière » University. The Biennale Hors Norme takes place in Lyon every 2 years. The philosophy of that event is “to do with the other”.
Joris Cintéro’s account covers the period of preparation for the project and the day of September 15 at the Grandes Voisines. He describes his way of proceeding in this way:
As I took hardly any note that day (I attended explicitly in the spirit of participating), the following report is based essentially on my memories. Writing in this way allowed me to dig up these memories, alongside the photos and videos I took during the day – which also helped me to ‘recover’ my memory. This report therefore alternates between descriptions, contextualisation and snippets of analysis that need to be explored in greater depth.
Jean-Charles François’ report is based on a day spent at the Lyon CNSMD, on September 19 and two days at the Lyon II University, on September 21 and 22. It was compiled from observations (without participation in the activities) and note-taking.
In both cases, the reports alternate descriptions, contextualizations and analytical fragments that need to be explored in greater depth.
Giacomo Spica Capobianco and Sébastien Leborgne, members of the Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p, provide some essential background information for understanding their approach.
Interspersed with the texts are extracts from a video realized by the Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p team, featuring interviews with diverse participants and segments of the workshop proceedings.
1.1 The project of the Orchestre National Urbain
Jean-Charles François :
The “Nomadic Collective Creation” project was developed by Giacomo Spica Capobianco, for the Hors Norme 2023 Biennial. Giacomo is the artistic director of Centre d’art – Musiques urbaines – Musiques électroniques (Cra.p) [Art center – Urban Music – Electronic Music], which he founded over thirty years ago. According to its website “The CRA.P team aims to exchange knowledge and know-how in the domain of urban and electro music, to cross aesthetics and practices, to generate encounters, to invent new forms, to create artistic clashes, and to give people means to express themselves.” (Cra.p). The project has been developed in collaboration with the members of the Orchestre National Urbain, the FEM team directed by Karine Hahn, “Formation à l’Enseignement de la Musique” (Music teachers training) as part of the Conservatoire Supérieur de Musique et de Danse de Lyon (CNSMDL – FEM), and with visual artist Guy Dallevet for the Hors Norme Biennial.(BHN).
The description of the project by its organizers can be summarized in several elements regrouped in a scheme aimed in a general way at getting very different groups of people to work collectively to produce music, dance and painting:
- Three axes of mediation are here combined: a) invite in the same space very different social groups; b) invite in the same space people who can be qualified to call themselves “artists” (conservatory students) with people who, a priori, have no recognized skills in this domain; c) invite in the same space practices in different artistic domains (music, dance, theatre, visual arts, poetry).
- The encounters are based on immediate artistic practices, making music, making dance, making painting. To ensure that this common practice does not give one group an advantage over another, the encounters are organized in such a way that everyone will have to be confronted with tasks that are completely new to them, as for example playing trombone for the first time in your life, or dancing if you’re a musician.
- The project is structured in a series of workshops led by members of the Orchestre National Urbain:
Sébastien Leborgne (Lucien 16’s), beat box and spoken voice.
Rudy Badstuber Rodriguez, MAO and percussion elements.
Selim Penaranda, cello.
Odenson Laurent, trombone.
Sabrina Boukhenous, body movements.
Clément Bres, drums.
Giacomo Spica Capobianco, Sound Laboratoire, a workshop regrouping after the other workshops all their activities, in the perspectives of collective creation.
The painting workshop are led by Guy Dallevet for the Hors Norme Biennial.
The common thread running through these very different workshops (except painting) in terms of material manipulations, is made of a series of color codes defining playing modes:
a) orange = strong wind ;
b) white = gradual slowing down ;
c) red = repeated rhythm (three quarter notes and a rest);
d) brown = 8 regular pulsations;
e) black = freeze, silence;
f) blue = fear, shivering, energy;
g) green = free improvisation.
The various effective practices in different workshops are all based on the exploration of these color codes.
- Another important activity initiated by the Orchestre National Urbain, is the writing of personal texts to be spoken (in precise rhythms or freely) when all the elements from the workshops meet on stage.
- All participants follow all the workshops one after another, and then everybody meet in a general ensemble with the following stations: trombone, cello, amplified voice, drum set, various suspended sounding objects, 2 electronic stations (loops, playing with fingers on a pad), a “spicaphone” (a kind of electric guitar with a single string built by Giacomo Spica), an instrument with strings stretched on a metal frame (called « sound mirror »), an electric guitar set up horizontally to be played like a percussion instrument, a space for dance. A conductor is chosen among the participants to organize the performance, showing along the way color-coded cards. In Giacomo’s mind, this is not the equivalent of “sound painting”, the conductor must only show the color without imposing any particular energy. Experience with the set-up has shown that, in practice, the people conducting (members of the Orchestre National Urbain as well as any other participants) often exert a “particular energy” – bending down to embody a soft intensity, to play at changing the color-code cartons very quickly, ensuring that only one part of the ensemble be concerned with a color-code, etc.)
- At a given moment, in the institution where the workshops take place, a general restitution of the work accomplished is presented to an outside audience (this happened at the CNSMDL at the end of two days of work, and at the Lyon II University also after two days of work). At the university, this restitution was followed by a concert by the Orchestre National Urbain.
The specific project linked to the Hors Norme Biennial took place at three different sites:
- September 15-16, 2023, at the Grandes Voisines, in Francheville near Lyon. This institution described itself on its website as “a social, interactive and solidarity-based place where you can sleep, eat, work, paint, discover an art exhibition, take part in a choir… and experience encounters.” (Les Grandes Voisines). This accommodation facility is a place where refugees can stay awaiting regularization. It’s this particular group of people that was targeted during these two days of practice.
- September 18-19, 2023, at the Lyon CNSMD, department of the music teachers training program [FEM: Formation à l’Enseignement de la Musique]. Two days of workshops designed as encounters through practices between the Conservatory students and the refugees staying at Grandes Voisines, with a public presentation of the work at the end of the second day.
- September 20-21, 2003, at University Lumière Lyon II, workshops with refugees, and students from the university and the conservatory (on a voluntary basis), with a public presentation of the work at the end of the second day, followed by a concert by the Orchestre National Urbain.
1.2 Period of Preparation of the Project
Joris Cintéro :
As I write these lines, I can’t quite remember clearly the circumstances in which I was first introduced to the device. All I remember is a few snippets of discussion with Karine Hahn describing a « project we’re involved in with the CRA.P », the first stage of which is taking place « in Francheville [a suburb of Lyon], in a refugee home center », and that « the students have been kept informed » for a long time. I have memories of the objectives that were set for students through a device like this, particularly at Grandes-Voisines.
I remember the objectives that were set for the students through such a device, particularly at Les Grandes-Voisines: meeting with an otherness that we assume is not common in the ordinary course of their work as teacher-musicians, creating musical moments designed to invite an audience unfamiliar with the traditions of so-called Western art music, adapting to circumstances that are hardly conducive to artistic education, and, of course, taking a step back from social and political issues involved in artistic education.
A few days before the first session at Les Grandes Voisines [GV], Karine reminded the students of the Education Department about the project. After a group discussion in class with the students, we asked them about the possibility of going to Les Grandes Voisines on Friday and/or Saturday, we realised that very few of them were available/motivated to come with us on those days. Only one first-year student (Grégoire) was available, whom we didn’t know very well at the time – the course had only been running for a week. Almost all of the other students told us that they were busy or that they would have liked to come but hadn’t received the information in time.
We also stressed the need for students wishing to come to bring instruments that could be handled by children – I remember awkwardly insisting on this, suggesting that it was only a question of working with children and that they would be particularly careless. The students’ answers led us to discover that very few of them had several musical instruments.
Part II : The Nomadic Collective Creation at the Grandes Voisines
2.1 Workshops at the Grandes Voisines
Joris Cintéro :
On Saturday September 16, 2023, after collecting an old classical guitar at home and Karine’s electric harp from Villeurbanne School of Music, we both drove to the Grandes Voisines, arriving mid-afternoon, around 3.30 pm. Karine parked in the entrance car park, a stone’s throw from a sort of faded (empty?) gatehouse used to monitor comings and goings at the home centre. It’s a bit far from where the workshops are taking place (it has to be said that the signage wasn’t very clear and there’s nothing on the outside to announce the Biennale Hors-Normes). After a short phone call, Giacomo beckons us to approach from afar and welcomed us.
I meet the various members of the Orchestre National Urbain for the first time, as they emerge from a room housing various instruments. Giacomo takes us on a quick ‘critical’ tour of the premises. We discover a maze of rooms, doors and corridors, and are quickly briefed on the organization of the premises. Indeed, Giacomo is already familiar with the place (the Orchestre National Urbain has already been involved in the premises) and has experienced tensions with some of the people working there. During the visit, I quickly understand that there are communication difficulties between the protagonists (and their respective institutions) regarding the management of the site, and that some of the artists present at the Biennale Hors-Normes [BHN] are not ‘on the same wavelength’ as Giacomo.
I have the impression of a labyrinthine place that struggles to hide the stigma of its former use (as a hospital for the elderly). Although some corridors are lined with paintings and works of art of all kinds, and some exterior points suggest artistic activity (sculptures etc.), the place exudes a certain coldness (neon lights, false ceilings, greyish paint, cracked tiles etc.) typical of administrative buildings, retirement homes or even hospitals. Some rooms appear a little gloomy and smell of damp – such as the concert hall on the building’s first floor, which stands in place of the building’s former chapel. To add to this impression, Giacomo will add during the visit that autopsy tables are still present in the building’s basements. In the distance, we see a soccer stadium, the use of which in a geriatric hospital is hard to understand, and posters showing an installation to be held there. I’m struck at this point by the ‘waltz’ of keys that accompanies this visit, a sensation probably due to Giacomo’s annoyance at the need to lock up behind oneself “just in case”, “because some refugees don’t hesitate to help themselves”, or because the equipment cannot be supervised in our absence (and that of the Orchestre National Urbain members running the workshops).
After a good fifteen minutes’ walk around the site to find out where the various workshops were taking place, we’re back to where we started, under the sort of Barnum where the Orchestre National Urbain team had welcomed us earlier. It was quite warm, and Grégoire, the only student from the CNSMDL that day, had just arrived.
Once the visit was over, in the middle of a sentence, Giacomo mentioned the major difficulty of the afternoon, which we soon noticed: no one had signed up to take part in the workshops. According to him, this was due to the fact that the social workers working at the venue had not passed on the information to the venue’s users (we didn’t see any posters during the visit and we met people working at the venue who weren’t aware that music workshops were being held), a lack of communication that could itself be explained by a falling out between the BHN’s project leaders and the venue’s organisation – the details of which we would later learn. So the day began without any children or adults, apart from Omet – a user of the venue who was not initially presented/categorised as a beneficiary of the device but rather as a full member of the activity.
In the absence of an audience, the members of the Orchestre National Urbain don’t give up and invited Karine, Grégoire, Omet and myself to start playing with them in the collective sound workshop.
2.2 The Collective Workshop « Sound Laboratory » at the Grandes Voisines
Joris Cintéro :
Giacomo presents a collective musical workshop similar to the group workshops later offered at the CNSMDL and the Lyon II “Lumière” University. It consists of a collective improvisation directed by a conductor, officiating only through a set of coloured cards indicating particular musical intentions to guide the improvising group.
The instruments are as follow:
– ‘Urban lutherie’ instruments : Spicaphone / Mirror-Harp [amplified]
– Electronic Instruments: (Korg monotribe/Kaosspad/Roland SP 404SX/MicroKorg)
– Effect pedals (Whammy with Spicaphone)
– Microphone [amplified]
– Acoustic instruments (Snare drum, electric guitar, “Chinese chopsticks” as drumsticks)
The console and the various cables used to amplify the instruments are not used as playing aids in the system.
The set of cards includes 7 colours associated with the conventions already mentioned above: In addition to this ‘colour coding’, the sound volume of the improvising group can be varied by means of a signal.
On this day, the instruments are arranged around the conductor (he or she). The workshop took place in a large room with green linoleum and several bay windows (some blacked out with curtains), giving direct access to the outside – allowing passers-by to see (and incidentally hear) what was going on. Although it is not, so to speak, central to the architecture of the home centre, this room is nevertheless in the path of pedestrians and cars and overlooks several other buildings – which will be important for the rest of the day.
The workshop began with an explanation from Giacomo, who presented the various aspects, emphasising the colour code and the objectives (working on the sound, freeing up any inhibitions, creating a space of equality between musicians and non-musicians, etc.). As I was involved throughout, I don’t know exactly how long each improvisation lasted. The only thing I do know is that the improvisation rounds stopped once everyone had conducted at least once – some repeating the exercise several times.
The workshop begins. Everyone seemed to enjoy playing the game. The comments made by those attending related mainly to the difficulty of remembering in the moment the conventions associated with the coloured cards (I had to wait until the 4th or 5th round to align myself ‘correctly’ with the cards), the nuances suggested by the conductor and the pleasure of playing on ‘exotic’ instruments (the mirror harp and the spicaphone in particular). Almost every workshop ‘round’ ended with a discussion of what had just taken place, mainly on musical issues (the conductor’s intention, nuances, etc.). The first few workshops went ‘very well’ insofar as it seemed to me that most of the participants were used to the exercise.
During the improvisations, we can see some groups of adults, children and parents, sometimes pass by, some discreetly approaching the auditorium – most pretending not to be seen. It was amid this flow of passers-by that a man in his early forties joined us, accompanied by his 5-year-old daughter. Rather reserved, he said from the start that he had come ‘for his daughter’, who seemed particularly happy and cheerful when the members of the Orchestre National Urbain invited him to join in the collective improvisation. The child took part in several ‘rounds’ of the workshop accompanied by various participants (who sat her on a chair so that she could play on the Microkorg, for example, or reframed her game in relation to the coloured cards) and the father took on the role of leader once – as well as taking part in a few rounds of the workshop himself. Initially reluctant to take part (he was only going to watch his daughter), he joined us at Giacomo’s request and gradually ‘relaxed’, without showing however any sign of letting go (which I interpreted as the fact that the participants were fully committed to the game and were sometimes overwhelmed by it). Both left the room after several rounds of workshops, clearly happy to have been there.
Once the auditorium was closed, we moved on to the adjacent room, where a cello improvisation and painting workshop was being held.
2.3 Cello/Painting Workshop at the Grandes Voisines
Joris Cintéro :
The cello-painting workshop was run by Selim Penaranda (cello) and a person (painting) whose name I have forgotten (I would later learn that she was replacing Guy Dallevet, who was absent that day). It takes place in a room that is large but rather cluttered with cardboard boxes, paintings, sculptures and various objects.
The workshop was organized quite simply. On one side we have Selim with 3 cellos (1 acoustic and two amplified electric) and on the other the painter with a set of sheets of paper, acrylic paint, cardboard boxes to spread it out on and protective clothing that is visibly worn – the room seems to be used very often for activities of this kind, as can be seen from the numerous paintings on the walls and the paint stains in the sink. In the same spirit as the productions that would follow for the rest of the week, this device involved interaction between the groups who were painting and the groups who were playing the cello. The workshop ends with individual cello improvisations based on a support painted by the performer.
The cello activity led by Selim is always organised in the same way.
1. Presentation of the instrument and the device.
2. Experimenting with the instrument.
3. Directed improvisation with color code. This activity requires at least two people
to play (sometimes including Selim) and one to conduct.
Selim first introduces the cello by playing a few notes and repeatedly stressing that there is no one right position for playing it, that the most important thing is to feel at ease while playing. In this sense, he does not hesitate to show positions that could be described as heterodox in relation to the common representation of cello playing, which is associated with a so-called ‘classical’ position (the instrument is held between the legs, the feet on the ground, the neck of the instrument resting on the shoulder). He deliberately places his feet on the edges of the cello, showing that it is possible to play it in this way. The same goes for the bow, which he suggests holding in several different ways, emphasizing, as he would later do at the CNSMDL, that “it can be held like a doorknob”. He did not, however, prevent participants from holding the instrument and the bow in the ‘conventional’ way. Once this introductory ‘ritual’ has been completed, he lets the participants explore on the cello while introducing the rest of the workshop, which consists of an improvisation with another participant.
The person ‘conducting’ during the workshop changes as the workshop progresses. The code used is the same as in the previous workshop.
On the other side of the studio, the painting is organised in an equally recurring fashion. The supervisor presents the task in hand, i.e. to paint a canvas while soaking up the sounds created by the cellists, using a piece of cardboard to create, as the supervisor shows, multi-colored circular shapes. Basically, you pour a few drops of paint (one or more colors) onto the canvas and use the cardboard support to spread the paint over a sheet of paper, creating spirals of some kind.
The link between the two parts of the workshop doesn’t seem to be obvious to everyone, as evidenced by the fact that during a break in the cello when I was looking at the other part of the studio, some of the painters paid no attention to the music (which isn’t always true, since overly long silences sometimes lead painters to grumble gently about the absence of music for painting). I take a few photos of the studio.
The workshop ends with a series of individual improvisations on the cello, based on a visual support, i.e. the painting created earlier in the workshop. None of the local residents will be joining us during the workshop. We decided to take a break after a short hour of collective work.
2.4 Trombone Workshop at the Grandes Voisines
Joris Cintéro :
The break offers an opportunity for some of us to light up a cigarette, drink a little water and have a general discussion about the facilities on offer and the lack of an audience. Although the atmosphere is very friendly, I can still feel some disappointment among some Orchestre National Urbain members. I also said to myself at the time that mobilizing so many people over two days for such a small audience was a considerable waste of time and money. We talked a bit about the venue, its shortcomings (the inhabitants are said to be housed by ‘ethnic group’) and the fact that, apart from its hospitable aesthetic, they don’t seem to be all that badly received. Mention was made of the existence of a building dedicated to single women, a group that, according to Giacomo, is difficult to invite to activities because they have been through traumatic migratory experiences. Everyone had their own little anecdote, especially those who already knew the place.
As the afternoon wore on, Odenson Laurent, a young member of the Orchestre National Urbain, played a few notes on his trombone. These notes had the effect of a call. Several children approached us, shyly at first and then more directly. They want to play and let us know. Giacomo and Sébastien rush to retrieve the trombones they had stored in a room in the building. The scene gives the impression that we’ve been taken by surprise, that the ‘public’ is finally pouring in, and that we mustn’t miss the boat.
The trombone cases arrive and are hastily placed on the floor. It’s an interesting moment in that we all (the participants from the previous workshops) gradually begin to ‘frame’ the workshop as it takes shape. Here we disinfect the trombone mouthpieces with alcohol, there we show a child how to grab and hold a trombone, and next door we keep those waiting for their turn waiting.
Odenson takes control of the workshop, spoke loudly (it had to be said that the children were numerous and in a hurry to play) and showed them how to blow into the mouthpiece of the trombone. Most of the children succeed. He suggested a series of exercises/games where the first thing to do was to blow hard once. The children did this successfully, laughing and trying again without waiting for Odenson’s invitation. The volume increased rapidly, and the children seemed to enjoy the activity. Odenson then suggested playing with the slide. Some of the children dropped the slide (it must be said that in some cases the trombones were as big as those playing them), which led to laughter from the others and impatience from those waiting their turn – some then came to the aid of their friends by holding the slide. The children clearly seem very happy with the experience they have just had. New faces appear: several women start to arrive, some leaning over the balconies to see what’s going on.
Same again, the mouthpieces are cleaned, the children are given a few pointers on how to hold the trombone (each one offers a bit of advice), those who will be coming next are made to wait, and the women who have just arrived are invited to try out the experiment. Karine, for example, was asked to convince a local woman to join in the exercise, which she managed to do.
It’s interesting to note that although, apart from Odenson, no one ‘plays’ the trombone (or at least no one categorizes themselves as a ‘trombonist’), everyone takes the liberty of showing the children how to blow into the mouthpiece, how to make the lip movement that allows them to do so, or how to hold the instrument – for example in the interval to those who are waiting or directly to those who are taking part in the workshop.
After several rounds, the workshop stops, and the Orchestre National Urbain members talk to the women and children present to tell them about the next day and the continuation of the workshops.
Part III : The Project at the Lyon CNSMD
3.1 Meetings during the Project
Jean-Charles François :
The staff of the Orchestre National Urbain usually meets in the morning before the start of the workshops in order to (re-)define the content of the day, taking into account precedent actions.
Giacomo Spica Capobianco and Sébastien Leborgne :
First phase, “Team meeting”:
The artistic director (Giacomo Spica Capobianco) reviews the current project with all the artists working with the Orchestre National Urbain. These meetings are an opportunity to evaluate the workshops as a group, in order to ensure that the project continues to evolve. These moments of discussion allow us to exchange on evolutions, constraints and difficulties encountered.
Preliminary to a program proposition for the day, a discussion takes place to enable us to adapt to situations encountered on a day-to-day basis.
Second phase: “Meeting of the team with workshop participants”:
Each morning, a time is scheduled for discussion with all workshop participants.
Obviously, this moment is important, given that no prior selection level is required, both technically and socially, the participants are expected to work collectively.
It’s important that the ones go towards the others for a more constructive encounter leading to elaborating an improbable creation.
The point is to convey to participants that they are at the service of the project within of a collective creation.
All the workshops are filmed.
It’s important to have a video support of each workshop so that all members of the Orchestre national Urbain team can discover each other’s work. This allows the project to evolve.
Jean-Charles François :
For example, here’s the description of such a meeting, which took place on the second day of workshops at the CNSMDL, the morning of September 19, 2023. This meeting brought together the Orchestre National Urbain team, and the CNSMDL-FEM team.
Giacomo Spica Capobianco reports on problems encountered at the Grandes Voisines. The venue of the Orchestre National Urbain had not been properly prepared by the supervising staff of the center. It seems that no information reached the intended public, therefore it was necessary for the members of the orchestra to start playing in the courtyard, to welcome the people passing by and invite them to participate. During this process, it was mainly children and mothers of these children who participated. As a result, only one refugee was allowed to come to encounter the CNSMD students. Giacomo sums up the objectives of the day, which are to give the students the opportunity to take charge on their own with working elements that are new to them. This is why they are not allowed to use their own instruments. For Giacomo, we’re not there to dictate behavior, but to create situations of collegial research with a view to projecting ourselves in practices accessible to any audience.
3.2 The « Sound Laboratoery » Workshop at the CNSMDLL
Jean-Charles François :
The morning session (September 19) takes place in a large chamber music space with a stage. The stage is organized with a series of instrumental stations (standard instruments, simple built instruments, electronic instruments, amplified voice) as describe above. A floor space outside the stage is devoted to dance. Students are divided in three groups. The people who don’t participate to the performance of a group, are sitting on the floor or on chairs outside the two performance spaces.
The session starts by a 10-minute body warm-up led by Sabrina Boukhenous. She is a member of the Orchestre National Urbain, an actress, stage director, and sound and lighting technician. Her role in the Orchestre is to take charge of body movement and spoken word. The warm-up takes place for everyone in an atmosphere of good humor and pleasure of doing: rubbing hands, breathing exercises, activating different parts of the body, jumping, etc.
The first part of the morning (9:20-10:45) takes place in the chamber music space, as described above. The activities experimented during the various workshops held the previous day (September 18) and that were attended by everyone, are now grouped together in a single ensemble: playing diverse instruments, amplified voice and body movements. Three groups of around 15 people play in succession on stage and the dance space, experimenting situations with a conductor using color-code cards. The performance sequences vary from 2 to 4 minutes. They are followed each time by a short period of time (4-10 minutes) where it’s possible to express reactions, feelings, or propose new actions, sometimes raising important questions. Each time the conductor and the various roles of each participant change freely, dancers become instrumentalists, the spoken voice being taken over by someone else, and so on.
One of the specific aspects of the setup is the presence of texts written during the workshops and read aloud by each student through a microphone placed on stage. According to the instructions given by Giacomo, the voice doesn’t have to follow the color codes, but unfolds its flow as a solo, according to the choice made by the person who speaks. The main difficulty is for the audience to be able to hear the spoken voice clearly, whether the protagonists are unfamiliar with the microphone, lack confidence or energy, or whether the sound level of the ensemble is too loud, since looking at the code-colored cards may not allow immediate listening of what others are doing. Giacomo, fairly early during the session, demonstrated with the microphone how the voice can be used more effectively. During the performance period of the third group, at one point, it was decided not to use the code-colored cards, but to rely solely on the solo voice with the need to be able to understand the text: the voice here replaces the conductor. After trying out this idea, a short discussion took place on improvisation notions: the necessity of listening to others, the question of reacting to ongoing energies and to other proposals, the idea to let others be at the forefront, especially in case of the presence of a text. At the end of this first part of the morning, a situation was experimented involving three vocalists reading their text.
The presence of texts give raise several times (notably on the part of Giacomo) the question of physical commitment and the meaning you have to convey reading the text. Of course, it’s difficult to make an immediate engagement in an activity you’re doing for the first time, when you don’t know where it’s going to lead. But the difficulty of commitment on the part of the students also stems from the fact that they don’t automatically (yet) subscribe to something too far removed from the aesthetic values that are promoted on a daily basis at the conservatory. The behaviors induced by European high art music written on scores imply on the one hand, a deep commitment on the part of the composers in their aesthetic projects, and on the other hand, an assumed detachment on the part of the performers who should be ready to play a diversity of aesthetics. We could say that, in this context, the performer’s engagement is only manifest when playing in public, in an attitude close to the theatre actor where the proper commitment is “played”. In this context, you are not accustomed to throwing yourselves heart and soul into any type of activity, without taking time to reflect on the matter, the aesthetic content is therefore not a commitment but a play. The commitment of the performers of the so-called “classical” sector is turned above all towards the manner to approach sound production, and in this way their principal identity is focused on their own instrument or voice. The body of the Western human being tends to be disconnected from meaning, having to construct meaning according to contexts, with the risk therefore of missing out on a more fundamental state in which the body assumes and believes in its own production of meaning. As it happens, there exist a great deal of musical (and dance) practices where the performers’ commitment is not separated from conditions of production, and where meaning is fundamental from the outset, that is at every level of ability. This is particularly the case with the musical practices of the Orchestre National Urbain and within the actions that it carries out in underprivileged neighborhoods.
Some students have decided to be present to the sessions, but not to take part in the proposed practices, and to be there as observers. This is a tiny minority, 2 or 3 among the 50 or so persons present. Giacomo had made it clear that this attitude was possible, that there was no obligation to participate in the action. Yet, one of them decided suddenly to join the active group, when improvisations without conductor and coded colors were tried, with the text or the dance now the elements to be followed. He took the electric guitar (that was set-up horizontally), tuned it in the standard way, and played it with the usual guitar-playing position.
For dance, the term of “body movements” is often used to emphasize that on the one hand, these are free movements in space, and, on the other hand, that there is no artistic ambition with technical implications that could prevent the immediate participation of any person present. At the beginning of the group 1 performance, there is no dance, then gradually it takes greater importance. It soon became clear that the conductor needed to see the dance (as well as listen to the instruments) to influence the decisions on color changes. With the group 3 (after the experimentation to follow the text) it was decided that the musicians should be influenced by the dance rather than following the color codes. As in the case of the text, this trial provoked a discussion on the relationships between dance and music, raising questions on mirror imitation, on the conditions for the musicians to follow collectively the dance, on the risk of of one artistic domain dominating another, and on the need for communication to circulate. An idea is proposed: an improvisation in which all these working axes are mingled.
Concerning the presence of a conductor with the color-coded cards, the reality of actual practice raises a number of questions. One important aspect is that, for each new sequence of play, there is a new conductor, therefore there is no danger of developing conducting “specialists”, and there is a democratic distribution of the different roles. But it is precisely this particular set-up that tends to reinforce the general representation that the people present have of the dominating power of the orchestra conductor. Therefore, the who assume this role have a tendency to over-invest the power that is given to them: it’s not just a question of showing color-coded cards, and indicating loudness levels, but it involves exaggerated body attitudes to pass on information to the instrumentalists to ensure that they are respected, and we soon find ourselves in a situation similar to “sound painting”. This over-investment on and of the conductor results in the domination of the eye over the ear: having to look constantly at the conductor prevents the focus on listening to both one’s own sound production and that of the others.
The oral-written duality is a very important element at play in the context of the CNSMD and the musical forms that define its contours. But what is at stake in this context is very different when it comes to immediate access to musical artistic practices for anyone (whatever their skill level and social background). In this case, very precise mechanisms need to be invented in order to achieve convincing results. Towards the end of the first part of the morning, Giacomo reminded us the pedagogical nature of the work in progress: the difficulty lies in doing things in depressed cultural contexts or when people of different cultures meet. How to build activities that from the beginning offer the possibility of confronting fundamental issues, but in accessible manner, how allowing people to construct their own meaningful situations. Accessing active participation comes first at the outset takes precedence over any consideration of artistic quality or of standardized behavior. The coded-color cards and the presence of a conductor that manipulate them to give form to the performance ensure in all contexts a rapid access to an effective practice, in which the artistic stakes are not at all resolved yet are already inscribed in the content of the action.
3.3 The Human Beat-Box Workshop
Joris Cintéro :
The day of September 16 (at the Grades Voisines) ends with the workshop let by Sebastien Leborgne (Lucien 16), which focuses on « Human Beatbox ». Sébastien is a member of the Orchestre National Urbain, and a rap, spoken word artist.
The workshop takes place in a room inside the building. The room is particularly small and is in the passageway of a corridor, opposite several lifts: there is quite a bit of traffic.
The workshop requires very little equipment: a few sheets of paper, a console, a looper, a microphone and a loudspeaker to amplify it all.
Sébastien describes his workshop. He begins by explaining the principle of Human Beatbox. To do this, he draws several instruments on a sheet of paper. We see a bass drum, a snare drum and a hi-hat cymbal. He directly demonstrates the sound that can be associated with each of the elements drawn on the sheet. He then puts his words into practice by recording a beatbox loop.
He then asked the workshop participants (who were mainly members of the Orchestre National Urbain and the CNSMDL) to make a loop themselves. During the workshops, a group of 3 children stopped to listen to what was going on. Sébastien invites them to give a try themselves at producing a loop with the looper. The children laughed, seemed embarrassed, but went ahead nonetheless. He took the opportunity to ask them if they were available the next day to take part in the workshop. This workshop took place in a particularly limited amount of time compared to the preceding ones. It shows the versatility of the system put together by the members of the Orchestre National Urbain – as well as explicitly the difficulties to which the collective has to face on a regular basis.
Jean-Charles François :
During the second part of the morning of September 19 (at the CNSMDL), I attended a “Human Beatbox” workshop led by Sébastien Leborgne (Lucien 16’s).
The technical set-up of the CNSMD studio consists in a microphone to amplify the soloist’s voice, with a sampling machine for making loops of vocal sounds, to create repetitive rhythms with the possibility of superimposing vocal sound samples. Several microphones are available to record several voices at the same time.
The introduction by Sébastien defines the context of rhythm production through vocal imitation of drum set sounds (beat box) over which a text can be spoken.
The first experimentation concerns the imitation of bass drum sounds, of charley, of snare drum with the voice, and to record them to form a loop. A loop is created over which the participants can add another vocal production to form a new composite loop.
The following situation, as defined by Sébastien, involves a) creating a rhythmic loop with 4 vocalists; b) then the soloist places the text on this rhythmic structure. Sébastien says that the students should do this task on their own autonomous way, he is only there to answer questions they might have. Creating the loop is quite easy, without much time at hand to try several examples. Adding a text to the invented loop poses more of a problem, as the participants read their text without any rhythmic inflections, independently to the content of the rhythmic loop. Sébastien suggests that the loop accompanying the Human Beat box should fit the text and not the other way round: “since this text is a dream,” the loop should reflect this mood.
A new attempt to create a beat box loop with five superimposed voices is made. A student speaks her text over the loop. She tries to connect her text to the rhythm character of the beat box. Sébastien remarks that what is principally at stake is not for the spoken voice to correspond to the rhythm of the loop, but to “impose yourself on the rhythm of the loop”. The spoken word doesn’t have to comply to the basic rhythm but should be guided by the right and true emotion. The student tries again to read her text over the loop but stops fairly quickly.
Someone asks if it’s possible to sing the text. Sébastien answers: “you can do what you want.” A student tries then to speak her text and to sing part of it.
Observing this workshop, it appears clearly that the main challenge that the students of the CNSMD have to face in this project lies in this very new activity for them of having to write a text and, above all, speak it with a rhythmic accompaniment.
3.4 Public Presentation of the Work in the Conservatorium Courtyard.
Jean-Charles François :
In the afternoon of September 19, a public presentation of what had been done in the workshops was proposed to the CNSMD community at large in the courtyard next to the main concert hall. An amplification system had been installed and the space was organized in the same way as in the Chamber Music space, a combination of instruments grouped around a solo voice, a space for the dance, and the paintings exhibited on the floor. The public (sparse, apart from the participants themselves) was sitting on the steps leading to the concert hall building.
The three groups of the workshops present performances in which there are musicians and dancers, often with a change of role in the middle. In the attitude of the performers, there’s a compensatory effect, since the production, still too experimental doesn’t correspond to the criteria of artistic excellence prevailing at the CNSMD. Seemingly, they have to show, a) the pleasure of doing an unconventional activity; b) stressing the energetic aspect of the experience; c) showing that it’s an entertainment situation in which one can be content to be only half committed; and d) sometimes bringing out the ironic character in relation to an uncomfortable situation. However, there is no aggressivity in these attitudes towards what has been proposed, but rather a problem of positioning towards the community in which the public presentation is offered.
In the Group 2, a conductor, very much like a “composer”, develops a form that stages elements in a sort of narrative that allows the text to emerge. Thanks to this “in house” know-how, we’re closer to what might eventually be accepted by the institution as artistically valid.
At one point during the performance, a CNSMD professor came in the courtyard to demonstrate her vehement disagreement with what was going on, and in particular with the sound level of the amplification, which prevented her from teaching.
Outside the FEM staff as partners of the project, no representatives of the CNSMD directorate were present during this presentation. Yet, the director is very much in favor of the development of this type of projects.
3.5 Reviewing the project on October 10, 2023 at the Lyon CNSMD
Jean-Charles François :
Une journée de bilan du projet a été organisée au CNSMD de Lyon avec les personnes qui ont participé en tant qu’encadrants du projet et les étudiants de la FEM.
A) Réunion de bilan des encadrants de l’Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p
et du CNSMD de Lyon
The morning started with a meeting of the Cra.p and CNSMD staff, during which the students met separately in small groups of 4 or 5 to prepare what they wanted to convey at the general assessment session that followed. Were present at the staff meeting: for the Cra.p, Giacomo Spica Capobianco and Sébastien Leborgne; for the FEM (CNSMDL), Karine Hahn, Joris Cintero and Guillaume Le Dréau; and myself, Jean-Charles François as outside observer.
Here are some of the ideas expressed at the meeting:
- What are the formative aspects for the students and through what issues?
- What is at stake in this project?
- Thinking the aftermath of the project: other types of collaborations between the orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p and the FEM?
The students had to confront musical issues in a practical way, thought out in continuity with social and political contexts. They had to manipulate and fabricate sounds in transversal and transdisciplinary situations, that is confront unknown musical materials, consider practices involving simultaneously several artistic domains, and encounter cultures different from their social and artistic environment. Their aesthetic concepts were challenged by these various approaches. The pedagogical aspects of the project emphasized on experimentating with musical practices open to all whatever their skill level, and on the inventing ways designed to encounter otherness. The two essential questions were: how to make music together with any public? And what is exactly involved in developing projects in specific places and circumstances?
Two critical reflections emerge during the meeting:
- The problem of the plethora of labels prevalent in each cultural milieu, which classify any practices once and for all, either to acclaim them, or more often to consider them as unworthy of interest, or else to rationalize them in order to better control them in the dominant order of things. How in transversal and trans-aesthetics encounters can we envision situations in which a certain indeterminacy of materials will enable new aesthetic grounds to emerge, common to the diversities present?
- The problem of the intellectual and artistic tourism is prevalent today in many higher education programs in the name of access to the world’s diversity. Experiences giving access to this diversity are multiplying in study programs with not enough time at hand to go in-depth into each of them. Cultural enrichment often goes hand in hand with a misunderstanding of the major issues at stake in the various practices. How within the limited time allotted to face this difficulty?
The Orchestre National Urbain offers the permanent possibility for anyone to follow a “tutoring program”, open to particular requests for training and project development.
B) Assessment with the CNSMD students
Each group of students presents their conclusions in turn. The group of students who also attended the Lyon II University sessions will speak last. In general, the feedback is for a large majority very positive: the artistic, social, and political objectives of this kind of action are well understood and the practices have been experienced in meaningful ways. Here are the different elements that were expressed:
- The idea of desacralizing the musical instrument. The instrument is no longer considered as a specialized entity, but rather as an object like any other capable of producing sounds. The fact that everyone has immediate access of to sound production means that all the issues at stake in musical practice can be put into practice, whether in terms of technical modes of production or of artistic issues. The need to make music with materials that are not mastered at first, enables to break away from the logic of expertise and puts all participants at the same level of competency. For one of the students, this approach is close to the Art Brut and Fluxus. This should enable effective encounters between participants of different cultural backgrounds. The tinkered instruments (or tinkering instruments) opens up a different way of considering sound matter, timbre, and the use of sounds generally considered as outside the musical realm.
- The declamation of a text accompanied by instruments. This aspect is certainly the most difficult to achieve for specialists of instrumental music. The “Human Beatbox” workshop was experienced as the activity that best opened the way to inventing sound materials through the realization of simple rhythms.
- Improvisation stemming from guidelines easy to follow. This is what makes it possible to become master of one’s own production. It’s an effective way to approach improvisation in an uninhibited manner. It opens the way to a dynamic of immediate sound production separated from preoccupations with playing only what is completely mastered.
- The realm of amplification is what the CNSMDL students are least familiar with. This first approach is much appreciated.
- The role of conductor: you have to dare to assume this role in order to control the general form of an improvisation, from the perspective of building an instant composition. For some students the presence of a conductor is an obstacle to improvisation, which implies individual responsibility and requires a less urgent temporality for dialogs to take place, without relying on the authority of a conductor.
- The idea of doing things immediately before any reflection is an important element of the practices proposed. There’s an urgency to do things without asking questions, to do what is not yet mastered before considering the means to achieve it.
- An important aspect of the project is to encourage audience participation, as happened at the end of the concert by the Orchestre National Urbain when everyone started dancing in the University amphitheater.
Among the problems raised by the project, some students noted a time organization that sometimes seemed too slow, and at other times too short. Boredom or frustration are at the root of a certain fatigue. There is a concern about the notion of “work”, induced by immediacy of doing, which may imply a strong devaluation of the notion of art. One of the students expressed her frustration at the excessive amplification levels and absence of consonant sounds, which made her very tired. Several people noted the absence of relationships between the painting workshop and the musical ones.
The issue of the public presentation of the work in the Conservatory courtyard was the subject of a lively debate. The situation ran completely counter to the dominant culture of an institution requiring a high level of excellence in any performance. In addition, the public presentation used means of musical production rarely in use in the institution, in a undefined style in relation to the prevailing contexts. The amplification levels made it impossible to ignore this event in every corner of the Conservatory. The students were therefore obliged to do something that was in direct conflict with the surrounding community and that puts them at risk to be disqualified. Many wondered whether this idea of presentation of the work was really necessary to the overall conduct of the project. The students had to face numerous ironic comments from their colleagues present at the performance. One particular phrase stuck out: “the slobs in the courtyard!” Other expletives were used, such as “degenerates” with more disturbing historical connotations. Perhaps the audience needed to be better informed about the situation and its pedagogical context before the event.
In the answers to this debate by the members of the project teaching team, the need to make public an activity that is unusual in Conservatory practices remains of great importance. It’s not just a general question that could be swept under the carpet of anonymity, but something that needs to be put “on the table” of today’s reflections on art and its transmission to all.
For Giacomo the public performance at the CNSMDL was not initially planned, but the impossibility of having all the students present at the Lyon II University for the general public performance of the project changed the situation. He understands the frustration of people present concerning “art”, but the issue should be shifted to the legitimacy of the proposed activities. For him, the issue is how music teaching institutions are going to put in place some mechanisms to open up their activities to people who have no access to practices. He points out that the most obvious problem in his work with the various institutions in which he develops his projects, is the often negative attitude of the leadership staff, teachers, animators, social workers, and so on. They defend their territory, and often feel that those under their authority must conform to their own way of thinking. If they are not directly involved in the project, its course is seriously jeopardized. Effective knowledge of a project by the host institution as a whole is an essential element in getting the idea off the ground.
Karine Hahn reminds the students that on the one hand, Giacomo came one year before to present the detail of his project, its outlines and challenges, and on the other hand, a text of presentation of the project and its objectives was distributed to all shortly before its realization. In a context where often the people involved don’t have the same understanding of the terms of a project or may even understand exactly the opposite of what is proposed, any mediation seems of little use in avoiding conflictual expression. What counts however is the affirmation of legitimacy through action.
Joris Cintero underlines the difficulty that the institutions have in using surveys to question their own ways of operating, especially on the subject of recruitment of people present. The last formal enquiry on the social makeup of the student population at the Lyon CNSMD was done in 1983, [1] it showed that only 1% of farmers children were present, and only 2.8% of blue collar workers chidren, and so on.
The issue of the public performance must stems from the various difficulties encountered with the general administration of the institutions and the people who work in them. One student who was present at the Lyon II University noted that, at the beginning of the first day, no one was present ready to work with the Orchestre National Urbain, no advertisement had been made by the host institution, no support provided. Immense efforts had to be done to get 5 people willing to get involved. For Giacomo, the resistance of the University towards this project is obvious, there are no professors involved, nothing had been done to facilitate things. The feeling is that because it didn’t cost any money, it would have to fall apart. At the end of the first day, the question arose as to whether to continue on the following day. The answer is definitely that you have to keep going, you have to persist and play with the situation. For Joris 5 or 6 participants out of 29500 students, it’s a long way to go in the cultural domain.
Sébastien Leborgne describes in detail what happened at the Grandes Voisines, with the presence of 415 refugees accommodated, many of them women and children. Karine describes the start-up at the Grande Voisines: everything is ready to go at 10 in the morning, the technical setup is in place, the teaching team is ready to work, but nobody is there to participate. But this preparation is a guarantee to be taken seriously, the team is there in front of no one, with the same seriousness as if there were people present. Little by little people pass nearby, it’s on the move, it exists, it works no matter what.
At a certain point in the afternoon, a 11-minute video shows in fragmented form what happened at the Grandes Voisines. One of the most striking segments is a trombone quartet made up of three children and a mother, all playing together accompanied by body movements of great collective coherence.
In the diverse answers to the students’ preoccupations by the teaching staff, the following could be noted:
- Concerning the question of the need to do thing in an immediate manner at the cost of quality control, Giacomo points out that most of the time, the projects he leads in different contexts take place within very limited timeframes, the passage of the group is often ephemeral. Here, doing must absolutely precede theory.
- The question of long-time involvement is addressed by emphasizing on the role of Cra.p as a center of practices, as a place for continuing education, with also the objective to allow people living in deprived neighborhood to access higher education degree programs.
- The choice of instruments works on two levels: on the one hand, you have to enable a first practical approach to playing instruments well-known to require years of work; playing trombone or cello immediately can arouse the desire to learn to play these instruments seriously. On the other hand, you have also to give access to sound materials that are easy to handle at first. Giacomo gives the example of the six-string electric guitar that requires demonstrating how to play it, whereas the “spicaphone”, an instrument he built with just a single string gives a more immediate access to actual practice.
On the subject of the access for all to musical practices, Giacomo tells of a story of a mother, following a performance given by her son, who is crying while saying: “I didn’t know that my son could have the right to make music.” In many quarters, people think that the access to musical practices is completely forbidden to them. The issue of cultural rights is essential. Karine remarks on the lack of places open to practices: where are the spaces existing outside the limited access specialized “schools”? Outside the Cra.p, there’s a crucial lack.
Part IV : The Projet at Lyon II « Lumière » University
4.1 Morning of September 21 at the University “Lumière”, Lyon II
Jean-Charles François :
The morning session of September 21, 2023, takes place at the University “Lumière”, Lyon II (on the banks of the Rhône), in the space where art works are exhibited as part of the Hors Norme Biennial, and in the large amphitheater.
Given the difficulties encountered at the Grandes Voisines, at the last minute 20 teenage refugees (all male) of the “Centre d’hébergement” of the Lyon 1st arrondissement were able to come and to take part in this morning session and to the next day’s public presentation at the end of the afternoon. They could only be there during the morning of September 21 for one hour and a half (10:00-11:30 am) because the Center that housed them strict rules on meals. Four students from the CNSMD were present on a voluntary basis. Lyon II University students, and visitors to the BHN exhibition could take part in the workshops, but this was a very marginal phenomenon. Giacomo told me what had happened on the previous day (September 20) when a small number of students of the Lyon II University participated in the workshops as they passed through the exhibition hall. This happened although no advertisement of the event had been provided by the University towards the student population. Their participation depended only on their passing through the space where the activity took place, and their eventual interest in what was being proposed.
This is a frequent aspect of the actions carried out by Giacomo and the Orchestre National Urbain: although they are often officially invited to develop their projects in an institution, obstacles are bound to arise on the part of the staff of the institution. The reasons for this lack of cooperation can be found either because what is proposed comes to encroaches established prerogatives, or by the presence of people from outside the institution (or its usual audience) is not viewed favorably. In all cases, the attitude of the Orchestre National Urbain is to settle into a given space, and to raise the interest of persons lingering there or passing by.
4.2 The Workshops in Lyon II University
Jean-Charles François:
Given the limited time available due to the presence of the young refugees, the organization of the workshops was limited to 15 minutes. This allowed 5 groups to participate in 5 workshops one after another, followed by a session regrouping all five groups for 15 minutes in the large amphitheater. This schedule was not completely realized within the allotted time, with each group actually taking part in only 4 workshops (out of the 6 proposed) before the session in the amphitheater.
The proposed 6 workshops were (as in the CNSMD):
a. Dance.
b. Cello.
c. Trombone.
d. Human beatbox.
e. MAO.
f. Sound laboratory
g. Painting.
The workshops were held in the large exhibition space of the Hors Norme Biennial, and in two adjacent rooms. The principles were exactly the same as the ones described above, with immediate practice on sound materials, and the use of colored-code cards. The situations were the same as in the CNSMD, so, there’s no need to describe them in detail.
Because of the limited time, and the imbalance in numbers between the refugees and the other participants, few interactions between the different publics could really take place during that morning. Some of the groups were made up entirely of members from the refugee group. In the case of the painting workshop, I observed a situation with two large sheets of paper side by side, on which two completely separate groups were drawing: the first group was made up solely of black African male refugees, the second one only of white French female students.
The limited availability of the refugee group meant that the morning had to be focused primarily on welcoming them and organizing their activities, while the other participants had other opportunities to take part to all the workshops and performing situations. From this point of view, what was proposed to this particular audience was extremely successful: the refugees demonstrated a total commitment of their energy in the proposed practices and showed great interest in all the various aspects of the workshops. One of the strengths of the Orchestre National Urbain/Cra.p team is its capacity to adapt in an immediate way to all possible situations, to cope with all the hazards of technical, institutional, and human realities, to overcome any obstacles without getting people in the position of not abiding by the rules clearly established by the institutions and without compromising the manner in which they envision their own practices.
4.3 The Workshop « Sound Laboratory » in the Lyon II University Amphitheatre
Jean-Charles François :
The last workshop of the morning, “Sound Laboratory”, led by Giacomo Spica Capobianco, bringing everyone together in the performing space of the amphitheater, in a situation quite similar to that described on the CNSMDL day, provided an opportunity to observe several new phenomena. While the system of color-coded cards worked very well as a common element in all workshops, its use in the large group performance regrouping all the activities in the amphitheater was less obvious. One is dealing here with differences of cultural conceptions: in the case of the young Africans, one can imagine that contrary to the CNSMD students, they rarely had the experience of working with a conductor. Most of them were playing without taking notice of the indications given by the conductor, the pleasure of a very new activity meant that they were more focused on their own sound production. On the other hand, some of them took great pleasure in assuming the role of conductor, with the idea of being in power to sculpt the sound matter. In the case of a very young refugee who conducted on two occasion (during the two days), we could observe a real progress in his way of determining the performance. The visual practices of respecting written organizations are not necessarily present in the conceptions that one can have of musical practices. How can we resolve the meeting of a diversity of conceptions of oral (aural) communication and their eventual structuration by visual representations?
At the end of the morning, Giacomo invites the refugees to come back the next day for playing in the public presentation at 5 pm (they won’t be able to stay for the concert by the Orchestre National Urbain, as they must imperatively be back at the Refugee Accommodation Center before 8 pm). Giacomo, seeing the positive aspects of the morning, expressed in private the idea to propose to the Accommodation Center to continue to work with young residents on a regular basis, even if the stay for anyone in these centers is only for a very short time.
4.4 The Public Presentation of the Work at Lyon II « Lumière » University
Jean-Charles François :
This public presentation of the work of the various workshops took place on September 22 at 5 pm, in the large amphitheater of the Lyon II University.
Most of the refugees from the Lyon 1 Center have returned, but they have imperatively to be back there before 8 pm. The same four CNSMDL students are actively present. An indeterminate number of other Lyon University students, visitors or observers are also there, not necessarily as participants in the performance. The members of the Orchestre National Urbain are also there: Giacomo Spica Capobianco, Lucien 16s, Sabrina Boukhenous, Selim Penaranda, Odenson Laurent, and David Marduel. Karine Hahn, Joris Cintero, Noémi Lefebvre, and Guillaume Le Dréau are present representing the FEM at the CNSMD. Some of these members of the project team also take part in the performance from time to time. Guy Dallevet is present as he led the painting workshops, as representing the Hors Norme Biennial, and as president of the organizing association La Sauce Singulière.
8 different groups present 8 performances based on the same organization of instrumental stations representing the various workshops, the conductors change each time and use the color-coded cards principle.
Several questions come to mind when observing this public presentation taking place. One wonders whether there is any point in staging such an event in front of an audience. It’s the same questions that were raised in the CNSMD courtyard, presenting imperfect things in progress, and at odds with the requirements of professional performing arts. Yet there are important reasons for publishing, for reporting on what is being done: not only the main objective of the workshops is directly linked to a practice that only make sense in a public presentation, but the act of making a given activity public determines that it is not let in the secrecy of the workshop spaces, that it is offered to the critical scrutiny of all, it’s a question of laying the cards on the table. This is what differentiates the ethical idea of public education from the possible sectarian tendencies of the private sector.
The public presentation is not the simple repetition of the workshop situation. Other issues come to the fore on this occasion:
- The perspectives of a public presentation refocus the performers’ attention on the need for personal commitment and for particular presence on stage.
- To repeat the same but in a different context with additional challenges, changes the performance conditions and enriches it considerably..
- This situation also in a subtle way encourages encounters and exchanges between the diverse groups present, because the performers pay less attention to the material contingencies and have more freedom of expression.
Two questions remain in relation to the color-coded cards:
- Is the situation of an ensemble or orchestra that follows the instruction given by a conductor encouraging personal commitment, or on the contrary gives way to the possibility to hide within the mass.
- The color-coded cards can prevent the search for other temporal and organizational solutions, particularly in trying out textures and micro-variations.
These questions are important but may not automatically apply to a kind of project that is so limited in duration and involving such radically different groups.
After this public performance and before the concert by the Orchestre National Urbain, refreshments were served in the BHN exhibition hall, unfortunately without the presence of the young Africans.
Part V : The Aesthetic Framework of the Idea of Collective Creation
Jean-Charles François :
The idea of collective creation is at the core of the Orchestre national Urbain project: for collective creation to become a reality in groups that are heterogeneous in terms of geographical, social, and cultural origins, it is absolutely essential to avoid one particular group dictating its own rules and aesthetic conceptions to others. For example, accomplished musicians (as is the case with CNSMDL students) should not use their own instruments, in order to put themselves in a position of equality with those who never practiced music. And to give another example, people coming from other extra-European geographical spheres should not use songs or playing techniques issued from their own tradition.
Joris Cintéro :
Several observations can be formulated concerning these issues. The first one relates to the many ‘holds’[2] offered by the device (or set-up, or agencement)[dispositif][3] to the participants, particularly when they are not musicians. In the context of an intervention like that of the Orchestre National Urbain and in these circumstances, we can consider that what is initially planned, in particular the workshops, is constantly put to the test[4] of what happens (unsuitable venues, reluctant protagonists already present and, of course, people wanting to participate when they feel like it). In this respect, this brief moment shows the extent to which this device manages to overcome the ‘test’ of its audience. In fact, the nature of the instrumentarium (which has little to do with previous ‘familiarity’ and the symbolic effects it can convey), the absence of prior aesthetic codes (which presupposes knowledge and/or mastery), of prescribed ways of doing things (holding the instrument in such and such a way) and the simplicity of a colour code that is accessible to all sighted people means that participants can expand their numbers as much as possible, along the way and simply by presenting the colour code. In the circumstances of a place where the passage of people seems to be the norm (apart from children, few people seem to stand outside), the plasticity of the system is its main strength.
Another comment concerns the ‘framing’ of the dispositif by les Orchestre National Urbain members. I hypothesise here that one of the conditions for the success of the members of this ensemble success is that it has a major role to play in distinguishing itself from the other protagonists involved. This seems to be an important issue insofar as, if there really are tensions between the residents of the Grandes Voisines and the social workers working there (as we will learn on several occasions during the day), it is in the Orchestre National Urbain’s interest to mark its distance from the latter, and to do so in several ways. It seemed to me, at least in the speeches and in the way they acted, that there was a desire to set themselves apart through the type of ‘culture’ they were promoting (which was opposed to the French chanson promoted by the Grandes Voisines representatives), in the way they took over the premises (without much success), and in the way they addressed others (by showing a form of friendliness, which, without being overdone, was a way of doing things for all the members of the Orchestre National Urbain that I was able to observe).
Jean-Charles François :
An interesting event took place in the BHN exhibition space, at a certain informal point in the morning:
A sound sculpture was exhibited in the space made of percussion instruments and various metal objects, driven by an automatic mechanical system. The sculpture was capable of developing highly rhythmic music for 45 minutes without any repeating sequences. A group of 5 or 6 refugees stood in front of this sound sculpture, and as the music of the machine was playing, they started to sing and dance music that they knew, for about ten minutes.
This situation leads to me to make three comments relating to the idea of avoiding one’s own cultural habits in the perspectives of being able to work with anyone else in constructing a collective artistic act:
- This is a spontaneous situation that must not be prevented.
- The situation involves the confrontation in equal terms between two different aesthetical practices (music produced by a machine and traditional music of African refugees) to produce a new aesthetic object proceeding from the two and combining them.
- The principle of situations that avoid institutionalized practices in different groups to create a context of equality in the face of the discomfort of the unknown applies to initial encounters between heterogeneous groups, but it doesn’t necessarily exclude other practical situations that may develop in the long run.
Conclusion
Jean-Charles François :
In a society increasingly fragmented into microgroups that affirm strongly their identities, often through the disqualification of others, any attempt to find mediations between seemingly incompatible universes faces considerable difficulties. Yet the key to social peace lies in actions that bring together in the same place, same time and same task, groups whose differences are radically opposed. In this kind of situation, it’s not a question of denying identities, but of opening them up to the possibility of welcoming outsiders by recognizing the terms of their mode of existence and finding work situations that bring differences together. Nor is it about creating all-purpose artistic forms, keys in hand, that would satisfy the demands of any audience, in a Olympic universal bliss. On the contrary, it’s about confronting fundamental conflicts in rituals to make them explicit and to deal with them in shared practices that don’t pretend to resolve them, but rather peacefully bring them into play (into interplay).
The actions carried out during autumn 2023 jointly by Cra.p and the Orchestre National Urbain, the FEM department within the CNSMD, and the Lyon II University within the framework of the Hors Norme Biennial correspond perfectly to this ideal of bringing different worlds together. The ways imagined to achieve this are based on three conditions that combine together: firstly, a way of structuring practices that enable the immediate functioning common to all present: instruments, materials, fields of action, color-coded cards; secondly, this structuring allows for the opening up of individual freedom: improvisation, texts; and thirdly, the practices are conceived to put everyone on an equal footing: situations designed outside specialized roles, with the impossibility of using acquired technical know-how.
Those who brazenly dare to embark on the adventure of establishing encounters between human groups who meticulously avoid rubbing shoulders with one another are being foolhardy. They have to invent ways means of implementing practices involving consideration of others, avoiding any violence, but without watering down the reality of the tensions that are in play. So often, they have often to contend with the inertia of established professionals and sometimes with intolerable refusals. Their admirable presence in the cultural and artistic landscape, too rarely recognized, is of the utmost importance.
1.Antoine Hennion, Les Conservatoires et leurs élèves (avec F. Martinat & J.-P. Vignolle), Paris, Ministère de la Culture/La Documentation française, 1983.
2. This concept, borrowed from the sociologists Christian Bessy and Francis Chateauraynaud, describes ‘the encounter between a set of categories and material properties, that can be identified by the (supposedly) common senses or by instruments of objectification’ (1992, p.105). It was initially used to study the valuation work of auctioneers, whose task can be reduced to looking for clues that make it possible to articulate the perception of the material properties of objects and the evaluation of their qualities by reference to a space of circulation – in this case, the second-hand market. Applied to the situation at stake here, it enables us to understand how certain material properties of the set-up (instrumentarium, colour code, layout of the room, quality of the materials, etc.) encourage the participants’ involvement in the sense that they do not hinder their physical and perceptive dispositions – and this helps to explain, at least initially, the difficulties encountered by the “musicians” with regard to these same material properties.
3. Considering the device as a ‘composed-object’ (concept expressed by Didier and Stavrianakis in their book Les objets composés. Agencements, dispositifs, assemblages, EHESS edition, 2018), the term here describes not only the material arrangement of the device but also the network of individuals, norms and social roles attached to it (the participants are thus an integral part of the device).
4. While the use of the term ‘test’ may well refer to the common usage we make of it, I use it here in the sense invested in it by so-called pragmatic sociology (Lemieux, 2018), which defines it as ‘a moment during which people demonstrate their skills either to act, or to designate, qualify, judge or justify something or someone’ (Nachi, 2015, p.57). Here, I consider that what is engaged by the device (the credibility of the Orchestre National Urbain, the artistic and social stakes carried by the workshops etc…) is put to the test of its realization, even if we can just as well consider the device as a test allowing to (re-) qualify the individuals who participate in it.
Quoted references:
Bessy, C., & Chateauraynaud, F. (1992). Le savoir-prendre. Enquête sur l’estimation des objets. Techniques & Culture, 20, 105 134. https://doi.org/10.4000/tc.5029
Dodier, N., & Stavrianakis, A. (Éds.). (2018). Les objets composés : Agencements, dispositifs, assemblages. Éditions de l’EHESS.
Antoine Hennion, Les Conservatoires et leurs élèves (avec F. Martinat & J.-P. Vignolle), Paris, Ministère de la Culture/La Documentation française, 1983.
Nachi, M (2015). Introduction à la sociologie pragmatique. Dunod.
Cécile Guillier – Texte 2 – English
Interlude
Cécile Guillier
Text written by Cécile Guillier for the concert at the Auditorium of La Chaise Dieu on May 25, 2018, performed by the author and “M.”, the percussionist.
Step 1
Cécile alone on stage
Feet are spread out to the width of the pelvis (spreading the legs of the music stand).
Knees are not stiffened (sliding the music stand).
Tilt the pelvis to circulate energy between the top and bottom (moving the top of the music stand).
The shoulders are relaxed (lowering the music stand shoulders), the arms move away from the body at a similar angle (opening the music stand branches) but in two different directions (finishing opening the music stand).
Take a violin and a bow (taking my violin and bow).
The violin must be supported and positioned in a balanced way (hanging the violin on the music stand by the neck).
Under no circumstances should the violin or bow be “tightened” (hooking the bow to a screw).
The little finger rests on the stick with a rounded shape (hanging the cushion on the edge of the desk).
The head is placed on the cushion, straight and without tension (putting down a score on the music stand).
Step 2
M. comes to hold the violin and acts as the student
Once the body and the violin are well positioned, make gestures. Lots of gestures, loads of gestures.
Even indigestible gestures, your majesty?
[…]
I’ve made a lot of them and yet there are still some left…
[…]
Until I pass my tests, when you’ll be heavy-handed?
[…]
To hell with these gestures!
[…] Mister student, have you had daily gestural intercourse with your violin this week, yes or no? (M. nods yes) Have you had, with your instrument, any gestural intercourse with your instrument that could be described as misplaced? (M. says “No” with his head).
Cécile alone:
I am specialized in violin gesture. That is to say the movement of my right hand on a north-east axis and on a regular line, according to different combinations of direction, height, length, speed, weight, and the more restricted movement of my left hand on a north-west axis according to similar principles (mimic the gestures without violin, imagining a scale).
M. comes back and follows a discussion between him and C.
The gesture is the means of the sound, the musician is in search of the best possible sound and constantly reworks his gesture to achieve it. The musician, groping to find the gesture perfectly suited to the sound he is aiming for.
And the pleasure of the gesture? Spending so much time making gestures without it being questioned in itself? The musician’s gesture is like the researchers when they invented the microscope: you think you’re going to explore something insignificant because it’s so small and you discover that there is a universe in a grain of sand, or that there is a world of feeling and mobilization in a small gesture. There is something infinitely small, but there is also something infinitely big in the gestures: you have to experience the forces of physics, gravity, balance, pendulum movement, kinetic energy. And then the gestures are sensual, and sensuality is an ultimate goal.
Yet the musician’s business is indeed sounds. And the dancers’ business is the gestures. Each one at home, we can’t all be good at everything.
May be. Sounds can be considered as waves that prolong movements or gestures. The musician’s gesture would be the past of the sound: indeed, we try to reconstruct the events of the past by tracing the thread of noise in space. But that means that the sound would be the future of the gesture! We would just have to be able to produce sounds powerful enough to get out of the atmosphere or machines sophisticated enough to recover the echo of the old sounds. We could know the past and send messages to the future. My gestures one day will disappear, but my sound, will it survive me?
In the gesture there is also a political aspect. If since your birth, you have been shown the gesture as the means of an already known result, there is no more room for creation. Once gestures are incorporated in this way, it’s more difficult to change, you’re not very flexible once you’re disciplined.
So, you have to do both, you also have to explore gesture for gesture, sound for sound, and the relationship between the two.
But then, what if we were to experiment with a whole series of gestures to create new sounds? and new sounds to create new gestures?
What if we looked at musicians the way we look at a dancer?
If we listened to a dancer as we listen to a musician?
What does my sound do to her gesture?
What does his gesture do to our sounds?
What if I made my sound a revolutionary artistic gesture?
And what if we danced?
C. dances with the violin and M dances with the music stand leaving the stage
Access to the three texts (French and English)
Text 1a, Faire tomber les murs : mûrs ? French
Text 1b, Walkabout Wall Falling [Faire tomber les murs : mûrs ?] English
Text 2a, Interlude French
Text 3a, L’art-mur de la liberté : murmures French
Text 3b, Free Immured-Art: Murmurs English
Cécile Guillier – Text 1 – English
Walkabout Walls Falling [Faire tomber les murs : mûrs ?]
Cécile Guillier
In May 2018, I participated in a performance jointly created by 3 colleagues (viola, cello, percussion), a hip-hop dancer and myself, a violinist. As part of the professional season of our institution, funding is granted to a few creative artistic projects (about 3 to 4 per year) bringing together teachers from the conservatory and artists from outside. The idea came from the cello teacher “F.”, who had met “V.” (a dancer and hip-hop teacher in private structures). She suggested setting up a string trio (with “A.” on the viola) and to add a percussionist (“M.”) and to work with V., for a single concert at Chaise Dieu.
I was tempted by the project, but despite the relaxed atmosphere and the pleasure of playing together, we had (in my opinion) difficulties in formulating artistic issues, in looking critically at our productions, and in setting up a creative process. Above all, there were funding constraints (we were only paid for a few rehearsals, a concert and a school concert, and we all contributed much more). But we also had, at least the three string players, different approaches and different ways of doing things: A. wanted to work with a written score in front of his eyes, and F. suggested building an original performance with staging, but using classical works. Her idea was more (I think) towards performances by artists who perform Bach suites while a hip-hop artist dances to this music, while at the same time promoting chamber music. This seemed to me at first sight like a pseudo culture shock organized for an audience used to classical music. I would have liked to question the relationships and specificities of the dance movements and the sounds, but I didn’t necessarily have the time and the means to carry out such a project. And especially not the relational ability to provoke a real exploration of this subject, given the individual challenges that it would not have failed to raise: the classical world, that of teachers even more, has so much need to legitimize its skills, that exploration, creation, risk-taking are sometimes extremely difficult between colleagues. The hip-hop dancer asked us to put our pieces together, insisting that he would invent choreographies for them. Now that I’m watching the rushes from the only rehearsal video we made, it seems clear to me that he was trying to adapt his dance practice to what he perceived and projected from our “classical” practice. Watching the whole thing (filming and analyzing ourselves) would have been essential but we didn’t (the only video is of a rehearsal that we couldn’t watch before the performance). And the position of the percussionist was more to follow the initiatives of each other participant (It must be said that the group was really disparate in its aspirations, it was perhaps better that there was not a fifth different ambition).
I think that everyone made concessions, made an effort, we did the best we could, but that our conceptions regarding the issues at stake in the creation were multiple and not always explicit, the artistic cohesion of the performance was not quite consistent, the work on the representations of each participant was a little ambiguous.
I had the opportunity to insert into the performance a theatricalized interlude that I had written, and which took up what seemed to me to be a thread, a link between us, at least between music and dance. The text of this interlude is included on this site:
Interlude – English.
Through this initial reflection, I also wanted to question the artistic production process. It seems to me that under other conditions, we could perhaps have organized a time for experimentation, for analyzing each other’s practices, and for formulating the essential elements that we wanted to “represent”. Then, the medium, the choice of repertoire and instruments, the question of staging, and the relationship with the audience could really have been addressed. But perhaps, this is not a prerequisite but a back-and-forth process that we need to be able to implement. Or maybe this is only feasible over a long period of time of working together?
Our performance project “Breaking down the walls” had the ambition to do so, but I have a mixed recollection of it: both a time period when we sincerely wanted to explore our artistic domains, but also a moment when we avoided taking that risk.
Access to the three texts (French and English)
Text 1, Faire tomber les murs : mûrs ? French
Text 2a, Interlude French
Text 2b, Interlude English
Text 3a, L’art-mur de la liberté : murmures French
Text 3b, Free Immured-Art: Murmurs English
Cecil Lytle
Encounter between Cecil Lytle,
Jean-Charles François and Nicolas Sidoroff
Lyon, August 3, 2019
The pianist Cecil Lytle came to Lyon in August 2019 for a friendly and touristic visit. Cecil Lytle was Jean-Charles François’ colleague in the Department of Music at the University of California San Diego during the 1970s and 1980s. For the past few years, as part of a program organized by the University of California, Cecil Lytle taught a course on jazz history in Paris every summer. A visit to Cefedem AuRA took place on August 3, 2019 in the company of two members of PaaLabRes: Nicolas Sidoroff who teaches at this institution and Jean-Charles François who was its director from 1990 to 2007. We discussed the history of Cefedem, the nature of its project focused on the development of unique curricula, and also the constant institutional difficulties that this institution had to face since its creation. Following this guided visit, the three musicians met with a view to publishing the transcript (based on the recording of this session) in the third edition of paalabres.org, « Break down the walls ». Throughout his musical career, Cecil Lytle has refused to limit himself to a single aesthetic. He has been very insistent on combining several traditions in his practice. Moreover, his important influence in the functioning of the university has allowed him to develop actions in the field of education for the social promotion of minorities in the United States from disadvantaged neighborhoods. The beginning of the interview focuses on a meeting between Cecil Lytle and Nicolas Sidoroff to get to know each other. The latter’s artistic practice is discussed, before aspects more specifically related to our guest in the field of arts and politics.
Summary :
1. Introduction
2. Cecil Lytle, musician at the conjunction of several traditions
3. University and the Preuss School
4. A Secondary Education School in a Neighborhood
5. The Walls and Pedagogical Methods
6. The Walls and Musical Practices
1. Introduction
Before we start, it might be good to for you [Nicolas] to say few words about yourself. Nicolas was just in New York last month. So now he knows perfect English. [laugh]
No… is it my accent [laughs]? I went there with French students, who did not speak English, so I always had to go from English to French and French to English.
That’s how we are in Paris. We start to say something in French and they switch to English.
I had already been once in Boston and New York, and that time I spoke a lot in English for two weeks. My English had significantly improved. Last month, for one week, it was mostly French!
So you went there to do what?
I am a doctoral student at the Paris VIII University and I work on music and the division of labor in music, in an Educational Sciences laboratory. We have formed a collective of students from this university, to stick together, to be collective in our research and to try to shape the university according to our experiences and ideas. And we made a proposal for a symposium on the idea of re-imagining higher education in a critical way. It was held at the New School in New York. Sandrine Desmurs who works at Cefedem AuRA[1] also came with us to present the mechanisms that we have put in place at Cefedem. I also attended a lot of concerts, and I took the opportunity to meet as many musicians as possible, like George Lewis, William Parker and Dave Douglas for example. I also work part-time at Cefedem with the students of the professional development diploma program for already on-the-job music teachers. And in the other part of my time, I play music, I conduct research, notably with the PaaLabRes collective, and I’m also a PhD student in Education Sciences.
So you make music, you are a performer?
Yes, I play mainly in two collectives: one I call post-improvisation, a type of music called downtown[2] – Downtown II – do you know this term?
I know the expression. It comes from George Lewis?
Yes. The expression has its origin in New York, but a lot of people play this downtown music and don’t live in New York.
I bet you.
And it’s the second generation of downtown music, which is called Downtown II, of which John Zorn is one of the important figures and also Fred Frith, to take the most famous ones. That’s just one of the two streams of music that I do. The other one comes from Réunion Island, an island in the east of Africa, south of Madagascar. In the small islands in that part of the Indian Ocean there’s specific music called maloya and sega. And I’ve been playing this music with Réunionese people for about twenty years now, mostly on trumpet.
Now, is that what is called in France ethnomusicology?
No, it is a practice that we call traditional music, but it is above all a live culture, it is not a music of the past, but of today.
And maloya is quite specific, because it’s a music that’s been banned for an extremely long time.
By the colonials?
Yes. By the French colonials.
The French are still there. [laughs]
This music came to the forefront in the 1970s thanks to the communists and the independentists. It was at the same time that reggae also made an international breakthrough. And that’s when what’s known as malogué or maloggae (a mix of maloya and reggae) developed[3] and seggae (sega and reggae) It has become a kind of very contemporary mix of traditional music, popular music and modern music. So I play with a family who came to France thirty years ago. I was playing this malogué, séga and seggae music with notably the father who sang, played bass and led the ensemble, and his son who sang and played drums. He was not yet 18 when I met him. And he was about ten years old when the malogué was created, he couldn’t reach the bass drum pedal! [Laughs] Today, the group has reconfigured itself on a roots reggae basis, it’s called Mawaar.[4] It means « I’ll see » in Réunionnese and a good part of it is sung in Creole. And we’re still working on the music from Réunion Island, even though we don’t play it live on stage any more. The father I was talking about is on bass, and it’s the son who is very active. He plays guitar and drums, he sings, he’s one of those who contributes the most to the music.
Do the people on that island speak French?
Yes, and Creole. A very nice Creole.
You have been to that island?
Yes, but only for a week, because the Cefedem has developed a music teachers’ training program in Réunion Island. And I was able to observe the three different Creole languages: the first one, the French in Metropolitan France can understand it, even if some expressions are not French, they are still understandable; the second one is mixed, the French understand some words but not everything; and the third one, the French understand nothing.
[laugh] You just play the music. [laugh] Yes. So how did you get interested in that island, that one place?
Because of the people I met.
Here? They live in France?
That’s because I met this family, and very soon I enjoyed talking and playing this music. I have to say that I make music in situation: I met people who are very interesting and know a lot of things about this island, its history, its music and about their origins, etc. So, I’ve shared their life, spent time with them, especially by playing music.
It is very important meet people where and how they are, to stay with this people, to eat their food, to hear their stories, how do they cry, how they are happy, how they are sad. There is a pianist living in Paris, Alan Jean-Marie from Guadeloupe. He plays jazz, regular straight-ahead traditional jazz. His jazz playing is so infused with the songs and sounds from Guadeloupe, traditional folk songs in jazz version. That’s what people do with jazz worldwide – – they make it their own. He sings in Creole, very interesting. He is not a great singer, but he is very soulful, very spiritual. Let me ask, how often do you go to the island?
Just this time, and only for one week.
Oh! It is not enough.
Quite insufficient! Besides, it was really special in this story. I went alone, without this family and the current band, with very little time at hand. It became like a joke between us: yes, I was going to discover music played there right now, meet musicians who live on that island… They weren’t happy that I could do it without their presence. That’s the way life is. But now I can see that I’ll have to go back. So we’re working more intensively on the project of going there to play music together and discover this island with them.
It is very courageous. I mean, it is courageous to study something that the West has not heard before so much.
It’s a practice that comes from the streets, outside the walls of the university. We can look at it in terms of the epistemologies of the South, starting with the work of Boaventura de Sousa Santos. He is Portuguese and is involved in the adventure of the World Social Forum. He has worked in South America, studying subordinate and dominated communities, how they organize themselves and how they use and produce knowledge not recognized or considered by the colonizers and Westerners. And he coined the expression « epistemologies of the South ». And it’s very interesting to observe how, now, more and more work at the university is asking these kinds of questions: the domination is still that of the objectivity of whites, of the North, of the West…
There is some interesting work being done in literature – some of our old colleagues in critical studies… Sara Johnson, who is on the faculty of the Literature department at the University of California San Diego, has been writing about cultural transitions from Caribbean and New Orleans. And in fact, I have my music students reading chapters from her book about island tastes and cultural practices–not music so much, not about the music. But some of the class distinctions persisted when the French left, when the colony ceased to exist.[5] Black classes emerged from the indigenous culture, the middle class, the military, and they started behaving like the French [laugh], very aristocratic and the core people fled to New Orleans, to Charleston or to Atlanta, to the Southern States. And then, she has just been writing from socio-literary point of view. Truly, Sara’s point is not about written literature, but oral literature. And there is obviously more and more written literature emerging since independence, but she is tracking the stories, the legends, the tales. So her work tracks cultural progressions taking place that measures closely with trans-cultural effects in music. And, all of these stories are set to music, they don’t talk about it, they sing about it, they dance it.
2. Cecil Lytle, musician at the conjunction of several traditions
Should we start the formal interview?
Ah! OK.
So, maybe to begin with, can you explain a little about who you are, what were your adventures in the past?
I am Cecil Lytle, I am pleased to be here to talk with friends who make music and make friend with people who talk about music. My initial music… How I got involve in music? My father was a church organist, Baptist church organist, he played gospel music. Also, I am the last of ten children, I have nine brothers and sisters. So all of us were in the church all the time, Pentecostal Baptist Church, five days a week, nights a week.
Where was that, in New York?
In Harlem. So it was not religion as much as it was the music that influenced me – – maybe they are the same. I don’t think that my father and mother were very fundamentalists. They just thought it was something useful for the children to do. For there were lot of bad things for children to do. We were all in the church, in the choir, we did all that. My father played the Hammond B3 organ, and right next to him was a broken down Mason & Hamlin baby grand piano. So, I am told that, when I was five years old or so, I used to sit at the piano. What is that? I think it was the happiest music I ever made [bangs his hands on the table] with the palms of my hands, and the choir… These were not professional musicians, these were women who cleaned the streets and men who worked as postal workers, so they were not trained musicians. But the power of hearing a gospel choir right in your face! You had to appreciate the mingling of their song, sweat, and dancing while praying for salvation here and in Heaven. I was too young to fully appreciate the power of imagination of African Americans, but I knew that something magical was occurring three feet away from me, and I wanted desperately to be a part of it. they sang about misery and happiness in the same breath. So it was… That every Sunday was a magical moment when these people could feel their pain, power and agency. When they left the church they were back to the real world, but it was a very special few hours when a hundred people, hundred and fifty people, could share power. Now they all knew what happens when you leave the church, when you go back home, to go back to work, they knew that world still existed. So I always remember that joy, the power of this moment – those three hours together one day a week. And I always wanted to create that more, everyday more. The challenge for me was how to do that wherever I might be in the future.
I had proper piano lessons by the time I was eight or ten years old. My father got money – enough money together to send me downtown to a piano teacher. I don’t know how my father found out about this fellow, but he was a recent Russian immigrant to New York, a Russian Jewish. He spoke no English, I spoke no Russian. So for one year he had me play on the lid of the piano, to begin with the finger stroke. I guess that’s how they do it in Russia. Just finger strokes, may be for six months, I just played on the lid of the piano. It made no sense to me, but I understand now what he was after…, now [laugh]. I thought that my father should pay him half as much. But it gradually started to make sense. About the same time, I think I also started hearing classical music. My father used to take me to Carnegie Hall, different kinds of places around New York to hear pianists. I remember he took me to hear Wilhelm Kempff, the German pianist, he played the Hammerklavier Sonata and I could remember the power of that piece, this crazy piece, it went on forever, the Fugue! I just thought it was fascinating. Everyone thinks it is fascinating. So I started to mix my gospel jazz music with trying to play Beethoven’s sonatas – -imagine that! And I think I tried to do both ever since, traditional, classical music and improvised music at the same time. Years later at Oberlin Conservatory, I think my most important musical experience was early years in the church, and it was because of the authority and the legitimacy of those untrained Gospel singers – their sound, legitimacy.
I imagine that you experienced something like that on the Réunion Island. People had no training in music or the arts, but it was powerful. They would communicate and said what they had to say. I think that what came out of all my music to say that. To feel that way. Then I met Jean-Charles François and other very interesting people who improvise in different ways, who improvise with a very different language. The goal was the same, but the language, the vocabulary was different. And I found that fascinating to enter the realm of someone else’s musical legitimacy – – to appreciate what was important to them… Music that was out of reach.
It was a very short step from gospel music, to jazz- – it is the same music, it changes the words, it changes its limitations, but all the chords are identical. There is this new movie about Aretha Franklin – I think it’s called Amazing Grace, it just came up this year – it follows her from church, gospel music to her career in Soul. It is all the same sound, and the same authority, same power.
By the time I was fifteen, my older brother Henry played drums, jazz drums, so we had a jazz trio and played around New York, a bit. It’s kind of odd, but the more I moved in the jazz world, the more I felt uneasy – -I didn’t want to spend a life as a jazz musician. I saw the life of the jazz people I met. There was one incident that turned my head around. I was once playing at the Savoy Ballroom with a large dance band backing up Arthur Prysock. While we were playing, this guy kept coming up to me at the piano saying, “Hey, man, let me play the piano, let me play the piano”. He wanted to sit in. I told him to talk to the band leader. So I’d play another number, he comes back: “Hey man!” – I was fifteen years old or so- and he was an older guy – “you can’t play that stuff, let me play the piano, let me play the piano.” So, anyway, when we took a break, I went to the band leader and said: “Who is this guy? He is bugging me, you know!”, and the band leader said: “Oh man! Don’t worry about him, he’s a junkie, that’s just Bish.” It was Walter Bishop J., a great pianist, a famous jazz pianist. I had his records at home. But he was strung out on heroin, he was all messed up in his head and body, and it hits me: “do I want to round up doing that?” A fifty year-old guy asking a fifteen year-old for a job. I did not sour on jazz, but I did not want to be dependent on a jazz life. And I wanted to play other music too. So I think the church experience and at least early jazz gigs that gave me more questions than answers. I knew from the church experience that I wanted to play music that had authority and meaning, but at the same time I wanted to do a lot of different things, not just gospel music, not just jazz, not just be-bop, and not just one thing.
So when I met Jean-Charles, I was directing the University Gospel Choir (at the Univesity of California San Diego), and we were playing New Music concerts together. I think the university gave me an opportunity to do all the things I wanted to do. If I was just playing night clubs, I would get bored. So just playing Beethoven’s Sonatas, I’d get bored… We did Stockhausen’s Kontakte, which was fun… So that’s kind of how I think about music, I don’t think that my expectations from those early experiences has really changed much, I don’t think. The authority of the music I heard as a child, the variety of music I was introduced early on, they sort of stuck with me.
3. University and the Preuss School
You were recruited by the University of California San Diego to conduct the Gospel Choir and to develop a jazz program, but later you also became the pianist of the department beyond the different aesthetics?
I thought I was hired for the Black Music, and we did just concerts and lectures. I don’t really remember what specific job title was. But then we played the concerts and it was fun, we leave a rehearsal and we talked, and I went upstairs and I do the Gospel Choir, and there is Carol Plantamura, we would rehearse lieder, there was plenty of variety. I guess my history isn’t a straight line – – my history is a mystery, I like that! But that was during the old Third College days at UCSD, when Third College was considered to be the “revolutionary” part of the University. And in many ways, it was. It was the “third” of what became six colleges. And the Third College was founded in 1965 with the original concept to be a college dedicated to Greek Antiquity. And then, Martin Luther King was assassinated, Bob Kennedy was assassinated, riots, protests and anti-Vietnam protests. Students became aroused and asked, “Why are we studying Greek antiquity when history was being made in the streets of America now?” So, the students changed the direction of the college to be more progressive – I try not to say left wing because I don’t know what that means anymore – but to be more politically active. And the leaders of were one professor, Herbert Marcuse, and his doctoral student, Angela Davis who was finishing her PhD in anthropology. She has written about this period in her life and in the life of the new University of California campus in La Jolla. She was sort of the spoke person for the students, and Marcuse the spoke person for the faculty, both moving the College in a more progressive direction. The name that the students gave for the College was “Lumumba-Zapata” College. Do you remember the name Patrice Lumumba, the assassinated President of the Congo? And Emilio Zapata the Mexican revolutionary? It was never named that formally, but some older alumni still called it Lumumba-Zapata College.
And because nobody in the administration wanted to name this college that way, it was named “Third College”, just because it was the third one in existence.
Hell, the faculty didn’t want Lumumba-Zapata. Parents couldn’t imagine sending their precious son and, especially, daughter to Lumumba-Zapata College. They were rightly afraid that we were going to make them political revolutionaries… That was not going to work. So the University said: “No bullshit! No Lumumba-Zapata! We will call it ‘Third College” and used that official name for the next 20 years.
In 1988, 52 of USCD’s performers and composers went to Darmstadt. I became Provost of Third College the week after we returned from the Darmstadt Music Festival. This post was very meaningful for me, because it gave me a platform to do things that I thought were in the interest of justice, working on opening the walls of the university. So, the first issue I tackled was finding a meaningful name for the College, not leave it with a number. What I wanted to avoid was that, when someone would ask “Where do you go to school?”, one would not answer “I go to number three!” We tried “Third World College”, not really… So we did finally give the college a meaningful name, again. Thurgood Marshall College was rebirthed in 1991. A name clearly associated with social justice and progressive attitudes about race and class relations, and until it changes again, it is still Thurgood Marshall College.[6]
Can you tell us who is Thurgood Marshall?
He was the first African-American Supreme Court justice. But before that, he overturned a number of a number of racist laws from the time of slavery. He also defended inmates on death row and African-American troops who were accused of cowardice during the war – the Korean war. Later, he married a Philippino women and he helped write the Philippines constitution with these principles of fairness and justice. His name is certainly not as recognizable as Martin Luther King, Jr. So, I am not surprise that his name is not as well-known abroad. But he was central in the Civil Rights Movement along with Martin Luther King. Interestingly, they didn’t always agree in terms of strategy. Thurgood Marshall criticized King’s plan to put children on the streets to confront the police – – putting children at risk to dramatize the effects of racism. Thurgood Marshall point of view was that this approach was too dangerous, people could be killed, and he felt that his important task was to overturn the laws that were racist and holding people back. Through their disagreement, however, they actually worked well together on a two-point strategy: King in the streets and Marshall in the courts. So I thought that it was appropriate to – perhaps, because his name is not as well-known as Martin Luther King Jr – to put his name on the table, to name the College after Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. And it inspired me and inspired students and the faculty involved to think about those issues. We had to ask ourselves everyday: “are you teaching social justice? Are you doing social justice in the community, in your classroom? Are you participating in a meaningful way?” I think that the name change had that effect, I believe it had that effect. Later, we redesigned the curriculum to emphasize many voices in literature, many voices in sociology, to re-emphasize the study of the Third World – this was 1988.
Then California did something very negative: during the 1990 Presidential campaign, California passed a law that condemned Affirmative Action. Namely the University of California would no longer be allowed to use race as a determining factor in its student admissions. California had decided that people who are black or brown would get additional considerations because of historical discriminations in the country. California citizens said “no, that’s wrong, you are discriminating against white people,” which kind of doesn’t make sense, but that was the outcome of the new law, Proposition 209. Oddly, California voted overwhelmingly for Bill Clinton and at the same time did away with racial preferences. Actually, I felt a bit trapped. If I am the Provost of a college named for Thurgood Marshall, then I have to speak, do something to counter this new law. So, a group of us, faculty and few students started talking about the idea of building a k-12 school for black and brown children, low income black and brown children. It would be a public charter school, grades 6-12 and the University would run it. Knowing that there would be opposition, we wanted to align the effort with an older tradition in American universities to have a secondary school on campus. Unfortunately, many of these “Lab Schools” were for very brightest and affluent students; kids who were doing algebra in the third grade, and reading Salman Rushdie on the week-end- -very bright students. This is a long accepted tradition for high-end American universities. So, I wanted to take advantage of that idea, but build a college preparatory school for poor children in order to get them ready to go to the most selective universities. This school would be a model for other schools in the community showing how to design a curriculum, a pedagogy, and to use college students as tutors to the classroom. Frankly, I wanted to not only reform public schools, but reform the university as well. I was trying to educate two types of students, the students from the poor neighborhoods who were involved in school, and the university students who never met these kids before.
I think my subversive idea was to change the university and have our university students receive academic credit for tutoring in class. Just like we give academic credit for taking Physics, History, Engineering, we would give academic credit for tutoring in school- -for being a decent citizen. And it seems to be working, the k-12 students are doing very well, they received admittance the prestigious universities. Our k-12 school is name after the principal donor, Peter Preuss. Preuss School doesn’t have a lot of dropouts. 850 young people start at Preuss School in the 6th grade and graduate from the 12th grade. I took a lot of criticism from friends on the Left because we also took millions from some pretty Right-Wing donors who were feeling guilty about how they were mistreating Black people and Mexican people. I took their money to build Preuss School because I figured that I’d do more for social justice with their money than they ever would.
So, a lot of good people got mad at me because I took “blood money”… There were good Liberals who gave money, too. Anyway, we built the Preuss School.[7]
The building was built to accommodate 850 students?
Eight, zero, zero; eight, five, zero. That’s right! We knew the school would be successful. It is on the university campus under our control, it is right near the university hospital, the School of Engineering is right next to it, so there is this an environment of learning free from roving gangs. Students absorb the culture of learning from the university environment. The trick is, how do you translate more broadly back into the community? How do you go to a school that is in the neighborhood, the ghetto, and try to build that kind of environment. That’s a tricky proposition.
Bud Mehan, from the Sociology Department at UCSD, was a partner in this endeavor. He studies education reform. Bud was sort of the intellectual part of this initiative; I was the… – what do you say? – the “politician.”
4. A Secondary Education School in a Neighborhood
After a few years of operation, we discovered that many Preuss School parents had a child at Preuss School and another attending their local neighborhood school. About 40 families came to us at a board meeting and asked quite vigorously, “Can you help us start a Preuss School in our own neighborhood so that our children don’t have to go on the bus for one hour and half to go to the university.” We started meeting with the parents every Thursday night in the library at the local school for about a year and a half. Grand mothers would bring tamales for endurance during the long meetings. We’d start at 7 o’clock, 7h.30 until 11 o’clock just talking about how to do this. Very exciting! It was like a revolution was brewing for the parents, mostly Mexican-American parents and African-American mix, plus some others. And it was just exciting that these were parents who were seeing what was possible in one child and wanted that effect distributed to all the children in the neighborhood. And, they lead it, they pushed it. We would meet and write letters to the San Diego Unified School District, asking for permission to change things at that local school. The District was so annoyed that they fired the principal who welcomed the revolution. They fired him to get rid of him, and they said that we could not continue to meet with the parents on school property. So through the good graces of the neighborhood priest, we began meeting at the Catholic church across the street every Thursday night. The entire community got behind this: the Church, the parents, the barbershops, people in the neighborhood. And for a year and a half we wrote the charter document to ask the School District for the money to run the school, our own school, based on the Preuss School model. It was approved and in 2004 at a raucous meeting at the school board. We opened Gompers Charter School the next year after a crowded year of planning.
In a way, I think Gompers Charter School[8] is more important than Preuss School. Preuss School has a lot of protections: gangs do not come on the University campus. These young people come to the university with a different expectation – they plan to study. But in the community, there is lot of pressure not to study, there are intimidations, and at that school campus, gangs came on campus all the time. We also discovered something interesting: if there was a riot in a California prison, (San Quentin or Chino State Prison) two or three days later, we would have a riot at the high school. If person “A” beats up person “B” in the prison, his family and friends would retaliate against relatives at the local high school. It was like clockwork: if there was a Monday riot at Chino prison, Mexicans against Blacks, for instance, and the Blacks lost, they got the worse of it, by Thursday we would have a retaliation riot at the high school. The connection between school and prison is very strong, and we had to figure a way how to fix that, because you can’t educate kids who are constantly looking over their shoulders. So, we had to work with the police and the district attorney to get an injunction, a legal document, that 200 known gang members could not come within three blocks of the school during school hours. A few of them tried and they were arrested, and they finally got the message and left Gompers Charter School alone. This is why I say that Gompers is the real test of the Preuss School model. It is in the ghetto, in the neighborhood, and it’s exposed physically to all the detriment of the community. Us university types gave advice, helped to write the letters and spoke at the meetings, but we let the mothers and grandmothers do the pushing on this. The university was not coming to tell them how to do it. But we certainly “had their back.” A lot of long hours went into the effort to open Gompers Charter School. I’d like to think both Marshall and King approved of the effort.
5. The Walls and Pedagogical Methods
You mentioned pedagogical methods that were used, and could you say a few words about that?
Yes. Well, we recognize – I mean it is common knowledge – that poor families can’t always provide a college-going environment. Both the youngster and the parents foster good study habits and success aimed at going to college. Even if the youngster chooses not to go to college, they are going to be great plumbers, because they are educated, they know technology, they are creative actors in their community, they can build for the future. But I have a bias: I want them to go to college to be doctors and lawyers.
And… pedagogy: we learned a couple of things, we learned this from parents. In American high school, there is something called “home room” where students start the day in a class with a teacher reviewing school traditions. In most secondary schools, students change “home room” class from year to year with a different teacher, different students. One major innovation we implemented something called, “looped advisory” where the same group of teacher/students stay together throughout all the grades until graduation. For of all, the teacher gets to know the biography of every student, what is happening in the neighborhood, what is happening with the parents and siblings. Our teachers love “looped advisory” because they fulfill more than the mission of teaching but caring about those that they teach. A number of schools in San Diego, Los Angeles, and around the country have adopted this model. So there’s one pedagogic difference.
The other pedagogic innovation is to have university students in the classroom with the teacher and the students. So typically in a mathematics class, there will be a teacher, may be an assistant teacher and up to twenty university student tutors in the classroom sitting right next to the youngster helping with the mathematics or reading. About 65% of the students are Mexican, from Mexico, so not all of them speak English with fluency when they arrive in the 6th grade. So that the idea is to accelerate their language, and also accelerate good learning habits. The university tutors meet with the teacher one day a week to prepare for the lesson plan in the following week. That is very successful and very expensive. Small classes are expensive. Tutors are not paid but they receive academic credit. They are taking a class to learn how to teach, so we have to hire a teacher to instruct them adding more costs – but it is worth it. Although it costs about one-quarter more to educate disadvantaged youngsters for college, it is an expense much worth the effort. Just remember, it is economically cheaper and wiser to develop a child in school than it is to repair an adult in prison.
Although these sound like major innovations, they are common knowledge reforms every one will confirm as necessary for quality education to take place.
During my visit to Preuss School, I was able to observe a computer class where students were working in small groups of four to develop a project for a small four-wheeled cart driven by one person for a regional competition. The idea was to take the cart downhill and whoever made it the furthest down the hill on the way up won. Each group had to work with a computer to find the most efficient way to build the cart to win the competition.
Yes, you know kids like games, and so use games as instructional tools. I don’t mean, you know, video games, but the computer lab inside Preuss School is state of the art and accessible to students. I don’t remember this project, that’s sound about right, I don’t know, but that’s special. What I do remember, they were in competition with other schools to build a machine about this big [Lytle hand motion] to move eggs from here to there without breaking them. So you have to design a machine that scoops the eggs, and you have to design all the electronics, and the wheels and gears to build the device and complete the task. And they fail, I mean, sometime, that’s why you practice. Like many of my colleagues in biomed labs, they often fail or fall short. Therein is another lesson: endurance and creativity. Repeat it until you get it right.
And did the arts and music played a role in the school?
Not so much. That’s my disappointment. Everyone thought that Cecil Lytle was building a music school. I didn’t want to influence that, because the children are so far behind in basic skills. We started with 6th grade and students come and roughly reading at the 3rd grade level. So, Preuss School spends a lot of time in 6th grade and 7th grade bringing their skills up to what is the expected level, so by the 8th grade they are usually sailing through course work. That doesn’t leave much time for music or athletics, unfortunately. There is a choir, there is a small orchestra, but not individual lessons. No, I didn’t emphasize the arts in the curriculum although everyone thought at first I wanted to build a music school but… I wanted to build to acquire the basic academic skills so that they could decide what they want to do with their future. And a number of students have their own bands, they rehearse after school, but we don’t have a big fancy music program. And I think the pedagogical big idea was to individualize education as much as possible – -delivering education on a one-on-one relationship, that someone gets to know the student strengths. A great many of our 850 students are from Mexico and the rest of Latin America. Spanish is the home language, however the youngsters are, essentially, illiterate in both Spanish and English; theirs is not academic Spanish. It tends to be a highly expressive, but crude, use of languages. Consequently, many classes in the early years are bilingual hoping to bring the youngster forward in their skills. It can be done, I think, with great determination on the past of the student, the teacher, and the family.
I know someone who teaches kindergarten and first grade in California, in a neighborhood with a lot of emigrants from Mexico. Many years ago, he began teaching in a bilingual format, Spanish in the morning and English in the afternoon. But this program stopped because of regulations from the authorities who claimed it was a bad formula for the children. So everything is done in English now.
That’s bad!
And he was very disappointed by this decision.
He should be. I heard that they are saving money. You have to have bi-lingual education in these situations in Southern California and many parts of the United States.
It was not a question of saving money, as I understand, it was a question of imposing the English.
Yes. So there was two parts benefit for Right Wing ideology.
You only talk about the successes achieved, were there any failures or more problematic aspects that you may have been able to solve?
How do you learn from that, yes. There is a very subtle point to be made in terms of possible regret. I think there is a subtle regret– and this happened to me, and I did not handle it very well. I remember one incident when I was about 16 year-old in high school. My mother asked, “Oh, aren’t you going to play your Debussy for the church women’s club?” And I said something like: “Oh, I don’t want to play for those people.” I thought I was pretty slick! By then, I was taking piano lessons from a Julliard teacher and fully ensconced in high art and I forgot where I came from. She slapped me, I was seventeen, she slapped me. She sternly said: “I am one of those people.” My mother was a poor women from Florida with very little education, but she always knew the value of education. We were at that moment both learning about the class distance such education can create if you’re not careful. It was years later before I figured out the crime I had committed. I realized what I’d done, and I was becoming for her an enemy, I was becoming an aristocrat, I was becoming elite, I was becoming one of people always trying to evict us from housing.
So I think one of my regrets or fears about these schools is that we may be making them the enemy of their families if we are not careful. How do you do that? In many cases, their grandmothers only speak Spanish poorly, and this youngster is reading Shakespeare and planning to go to Harvard. This collision may be handled carefully and individually. Each family has to be warned about the turmoil associated with class distinctions and behaviors; and, how to avoid them. Teachers and counselors talk with families about what may be coming, but we cannot go home with them and explain to the grandmother why the granddaughter wants to vote Republican [laugh] or something. We don’t give them as much transitional support as we wish we could. This is especially concerning with young Latinas. The family (usually the father) wants his daughter to be successful in America. But after receiving good grades and scoring high on standardized tests, he doesn’t want the girl to go away to college. We have had a number of examples of very successful students who were admitted to schools like Harvard with full scholarship, and dad says “no, you stay home, you go to school closer to home.” It kind of breaks your heart, but I understand that this is too much of a change. And many of these families have three generations, four generations living in the house: grandma, the parents the child, and may be a baby. So this clash of traditions, of generations, and values, change is real. If Preuss School is successful, we run the risk of helping to create the enemy of the family, we are creating the future landlords that will evict people in their same circumstance, we may be creating the future police chief, the future lawyer. So, I don’t know if this is a failure, but something we need to pay attention to in the evolving life of the child and family. It was my lesson, I had to learn on a cold wintry day in our kitchen. So, I don’t know if this qualify exactly as a failure, but something, for sure. In one generation, changing the trajectory of the family, a family that is poor for at least 6 generations within subsistence living on the dredge. And suddenly in one generation the kid is going to UCLA, UC San Diego, and the child is under stress, taking care of grandmother in Spanish, and to read Shakespeare. Or playing Debussy. And so that’s something we never fully address, and may be cannot be addressed fully.
I also have a question about the construction of the Preuss School building, did you have the opportunity to choose the location of the spaces, the walls, the architecture, etc.? Did you make a special effort to change the standard format – in France schools are often referred to as army barracks?
Oh! Army barracks! Well, may be! Preuss School is quite beautiful with plenty of open spaces. We told the architect, education is going to happen in the classroom. But because we live in Southern California, a great deal of education will happen outside the classroom, because in California it is warm weather. So they were told to give us a plan that has classrooms and give us a plan that there can be space outside where the tutors and the students can meet under the supervision of nearby teachers. What they came up with was pretty clever, actually. Preuss School is designed on a 5-finger patter, with a central administration building here (hand gestures) and in between each building are courtyards with little tables so that tutors can meet their student to go over the class assignments together. Consequently, supervised education happens inside and outside the classroom, and even on the sports fields.
The first Saturday of every months is for parents’ meeting – we have 300 parents attend. That number is unheard in American schools – may be you get four parents, five parents, but 300! Now Gompers, we inherited a school that has been in the ghetto for nearly half a century. Once we were able to secure the campus, we took down most of the interior courtyard walls, and created quiet rooms for tutors and students. But we cannot tear buildings down and start anew. Gompers has added a new family counseling building and a gymnasium for sports. And the gymnasium is open to the community in the evening, so that families can come do sports in a fitness center. We’ve tried to make Gompers Charter School a part of the community, not close it up nights and weekends. There are still security issues. We have armed policeman on the campus. Unlike Preuss School, Gompers survives in a pretty tough neighborhood.
And public police provides security guards?
We hire our own private police and train them properly about how to react. We have an agreement with the City police to not come on campus, unless they are called. This works pretty well. It is the case, unfortunately, when public police arrive, they quell the problem and sometime make it worst. So we stopped that, and now security works with the city police. No one likes to see the police come. The security guards are from the community, they know these people, they go to church with them, it is a little more friendly. Two or three of them are armed, the others are just walking around. But their purpose is to keep people out, that’s it. Because the students are not making trouble. I’ve talked a lot about the schools, I know if it is music or what you want to talk about?
6. The Walls and Musical Practices
Well, may be, a last question will be – to go back to music – what walls do you see today in the field of practicing music?
You mentioned John Zorn and George Lewis. People like that have been at the front of what music is going to become, it is not big yet. People who have lots of taste, attitudes, ways of doing things, the too serious pianist, the athlete who plays Chopin Etudes like nobody’s business, I think it is about over. Do you feel that way? People lament the dying orchestra, but I don’t think it’s a bad idea. Why should there be a dozen orchestras in New York? One pretty good one is OK. The writing is on the wall already: audiences are getting older. People hate me if I say that but if it is dying out of disinterest, it is kind of a fossil, prehistoric fossil. So, will orchestras be around 100 years – there will be a few of them– they are very expensive and the repertoire they play is very limited, about 25 different works played all year all around the country. I mean these are wonderful pieces, I love them, I play them, but is that institution viable? I don’t think it is, and I don’t think its death is a terrible…
I agree completely.
What is going to linger around, I think, are the problems you were telling me about starting this school. More evidence that powerful people are oriented towards the traditions and if you do something new, or have a different way of doing something old, they are not going to support you, they are going to give you a hard time. So when you were telling me about your fight to start this school, I know what you are talking about. But you have to enjoy the fight or else they will overwhelm you and your efforts. So, I don’t think it is a terrible idea. I think people like you, George Lewis in particular, are really exciting and challenging to watch. I’m especially excited about trumpeter/improvisor, Stephanie Richards, new to the music faculty at UCSD – really exciting. It is going to be difficult, but what I hope is that, if the institutions consolidate, the money that goes into supporting the 20 orchestras in New York, get redistributed somehow. I think that one of the unintended benefits of personalized technology in the past quarter of a century is that individual artists are finding ways around the music industry and can represent and present themselves at low cost. Subsidize yourself is the motto. And I don’t think that this is purely an American phenomenon. Artists in Europe and elsewhere are becoming known without the heavy packaging of agents or concert halls. I continue to think, however, that we cannot abandon the “institutions” to the lowest artistic denominator. So there is a tension to what I profess. In time, I hope, the individualized promotion approach will sufficiently coerce the pillars of arts and culture in society to rethink the public. The La Jolla Symphony, for instance is doing some interesting stuff: commissioning new works for large ensemble. The pieces are not always successful, but neither were the 700,000 sonatas printed between 1700-1900.
Well, thank you very much.
Thanks. It gives me chance to think about stuff.
Good continuation!
1. Cefedem AuRA [Centre de Formation des Enseignants de la Musique Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes] is a Center created in 1990 by the Ministry of Culture devoted to music teachers training (for music schools). It is a center for professional ressources and artistic higher education in music. See https://www.cefedem-aura.org
3. See for example the groups Naessayé and the recording Oté la sere in 1991, or Cyclon of the recording Maloggae in 1993. And for the seggae (séga and reggae), See for example, Kaya et Ras Natty Baby and the Natty Rebels.
5. See Sara Johnson, The Fear of French Negroes: Transcolonial Collaboration in the Revolutionary Americas (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2012). This book is an interdisciplinary study that explores how peoples responded to the collapse and reconsolidation of colonial life following the Haitian Revolution (1791-1845). The book is based on expressions related to the trans-colonial political situation of blacks, both aesthetically and experientially, in countries such as Hispaniola, Louisiana, Jamaica and Cuba.
Jean-Charles François – English
Return to the original text in French: Invention collective
Collective Invention in Music
and Encounters Between a Diversity of Cultures
Jean-Charles François
Summary:
1. Introduction
2. Alternative forms to definitive art works
3. Improvisation
4. Artistic Processes or just Human Interactions?
5. Protocols
6. Conclusion
Introduction
The world in which we live can be defined as one in which a great diversity of practices and cultures coexist. As a result, it is difficult today to think in terms of the modern Western world, Eastern philosophy, African tradition or other labels too easy to use to guide us in the chaos of the world. We are in presence of an infinite number of networks, and each of us is active in more than one of these. Therefore, we have to think about musical practices in terms of ecological problems. A practice can kill another one. A practice can depend directly on another’s survival. A practice can be directly connected to another and still be different. The ecology of practices (see Stengers 1996, Chapter 3) or how to face a potentially very violent multicultural world is probably today as important as the ecological question of the future of the planet earth. I will attempt in this article to treat one aspect of the diverse world of artistic practices: improvisation with heterogeneous groups.
My own personal research on mediation between groups of musicians belonging to different cultural practices or musical styles stems from my involvement as the director (between 1990 and 2007) of a center devoted to the training of music school teachers, the Cefedem AuRA in Lyon, France. This institution was created in 1990, under the authority of the Ministry of Culture, and offers a two-year program leading to the Music Teacher State Diploma [Diplôme d’État de professeur de musique], geared towards the teaching of voice, instruments, basic musicianship, choral conducting, jazz, popular music [described in France as Musiques actuelles amplifiées, Today’s Amplified Music], and traditional music in music schools and conservatories organised throughout France by the towns. Research was conducted within the framework of curriculum development in this institution, in direct collaboration with Eddy Schepens and the entire pedagogical and administrative team of this institution.
For the first ten years all the students at the Center were classical musicians issued from Regional Conservatories. In 2000, the study program was completely reinvented to accommodate the inclusion of jazz, popular music, and traditional music students, alongside the ones from the “classical” sector. The curriculum was based on two distinct imperatives: (a) each musical genre had to be recognized as autonomous in its practical and theoretical specificities; and (b) each musical genre had to collaborate with all the others in specific artistic and pedagogical projects. We were thus confronted with the issue of how to face the problem of a difference of culture between a highly formalised teaching tradition with low exposure to public presentations, and traditions that are based on atypical or informal forms of learning involving a high degree of immediate public interactions. The problem that then had to be solved can be formulated as follows : the classical sector tends to develop an instrumental or vocal identity in a posture of technical readiness to play any music (on the condition that it would be written on a score) ; other musical genres tend to require of their members a strong identity based on the style of music as such accompanied by a technical approach based solely on what is necessary to express that identity. Our task was to find solutions that could include all the ingredients of this triple equation. Two concepts emerged: a) the curriculum would focus on student projects rather than on a series of courses and the definition of their content (although these courses continued to exist); b) projects should be based on the principle of a contract binding students to a number of constraints determined by the institution and on which evaluation would be based. The Centre has developed a research program on these issues and in pedagogy of music, and publishes a journal, Enseigner la Musique (see for example François & al. 2007).
Taking this concept of intercultural encounters as a model, experimental situations have been carried out by a Lyon collective of artists in existence since 2011: PaaLabRes (Artistic Practices in Acts, Laboratory of Research [Pratiques Artistiques en Actes, Laboratoire de Recherche]).
Several projects were developed:
- A small group of improvisators met to propose protocols for developing common material in the context of collective invention[1]. These protocols were tested, discussed and then tried in a number of workshops addressed to the largest range of participants (professionals, amateurs; beginners and advanced students; musicians and dancers belonging to different musical categories, styles and traditions) (2011-2015).
- Regular meetings of PaaLabRes musicians with dancers (Maguy Marin’s Company members among others) have been organized at the Ramdam, an arts center near Lyon, with the aim of developing common materials between dance and music in improvisation (2015-2017).
- Through the digital space www.paalabres.org a reflection on the definition of artistic research, situated in between formal academic research and artistic practices, between various artistic domains and diverse aesthetic expressions, in between pedagogy and performance on stage. (See the station Débat, line “Artistic Research in the first edition of paalabres.org).
2. Alternative forms to definitive art works
Improvisation situations seem in this context to be a good way to deal with heterogeneous encounters through practicing music, not so much as a focusing on aesthetics values, but rather as a democratic process that this situation seems to promote: each person is fully responsible for her or his sound production and for interacting with the others persons present in the space, and also with the diverse means of production available.
The definition of improvisation, within the art practices of the West—especially in its “freer” forms— is often proposed as an alternative to the written music that dominated European art music for at least two centuries. Improvisation faced with the structuralism of the 1950-60s tended to propose a simple inversion of the prevailing model:
- The performer considered up to that time as not being a major participant to the creation of major works, becomes through improvisation completely responsible for her/his creation in a context that changed the definition of work of art.
- The practice of writing signs on a score and respecting them in interpretation is replaced by the absence of any visual notation and the prevalence given to oral communication.
- There will be no more works definitively fixed in historical memory, but processes that are continuously modified ad infinitum.
- The slow reflective method used by the composer in a private space when elaborating a given piece of music will be replaced by an instantaneous act, in the spirit of the moment, on stage and in the presence of an audience.
- Instead of having compositions that define themselves as autonomous objects articulating their own language and personal sleight of hand, free improvisation will tend to go in the direction of the “non-idiomatic” (see Bailey 1992, p. ix-xii)[2] or towards the “all-idiomatic” (the capacity to borrow sound material from any cultural domain).
And so on, all the terms being inverted.
For this inversion to occur, however, some stable elements have to remain in place: notably the concept that music is played on stage by professional musicians before an audience of educated music lovers. This historical stability of the concert performance largely inherited from the 19th century goes hand in hand according to Howard Becker with what he calls a “package”: an hegemonic situation that controls in a global way all the actions in a given domain with particular economic conditions, definitions of professional roles and supporting educational institutions (see Becker 2007, p. 90). The reversal of elements appears to guarantee that certain aesthetical attitudes would remain unchanged: for example, the concept of “non-idiomatic” might be considered as reinforcing the modernist view of an ever-changing process towards new sounds and new sound combinations. We don’t know which idiom will result from the composer’s work, but the ideal is to arrive at a personal idiom. The improviser should come on stage without idiomatic a-priori, but the result will be idiomatic only for the duration of the concert. The “blank slate” ideal persists in the idea that each improvisation has to occur outside beaten paths.
The nomadic and transverse approach to improvisation cannot be confined to the idea that it is an alternative to sedentary human beings personified by the classical musicians of the West. The nomadic and the transverse practices cannot just pretend to offer an alternative to institutional art forms, through their indeterminate movements and infinite wanderings. Rather the (transversal) nomads have to deal with the complex knots of practices situated in between oral and written communication, timbre and syntactic articulation, spontaneity and predefined gestures, group interactivity and personal contribution.
3. Improvisation
One of the strong frameworks of improvisation – as distinct from written music on scores – is the shared responsibility between players for a collective creative sound production. However, the exact content of this collective creativity in actual improvisations seems unclear. In improvisation, the emphasis is on the unplanned public performance on stage, on the ephemeral act that happens only once. The ideal of improvisation seems to be dependent on the absence of preparation, before the act itself. And at the same time, the actual act of improvisation cannot be done by participants who are not “prepared” to do it. The performance may be unprepared in the details of its unfolding, but generally speaking it cannot be successfully carried out without some intense preparation. This is indeed the paradox of the situation.
Two models can be defined, and we have to remember that theoretical models are never reflecting reality, but they offer different points of reference allowing us to reflect on our subject matter. In the first model the individual players undergo an intensive preparation inscribed in a time frame of many years, in order to achieve a personal voice, a unique manner of producing sound and gestural acts. This personal voice, or manner of playing, has to be inscribed in memory – inscribed in the body – in a wide-ranging repertoire of possibilities. This is the principal condition of the improvisation creative act: the creative elements are not inscribed on an independent support – like a score – but they are directly embodied in the playing capacities of the performer. The players meet on stage as separated individuals in order to produce something together in an unplanned manner. The performance on stage will be the superimposition of personal discourses, but if players can anticipate what the partners will be able to produce (above all if they have already played together or listen to their respective performances), they will be able to construct together, within that unplanned framework, an original sonic and/or gestural world. The emphasis on individual preparation seems to not hinder the constitution of a fairly homogeneous network of improvisators. This network is geographically very large and imposes, without having to specify any definition, the conditions of its access by a set of implicit unwritten rules. What is at stake here? The main focus of this model is on the public performance on a stage, where the important issues concern the sonic or gestural quality of the acts in that encounter produced by everybody present, including the attitudes and reactions of the audience.
The other alternative model puts the emphasis on a collective co-construction of the sonic universe independently from any eventual presentation on stage or other types of interactive actions. It implies that a substantial time is spent on elaborating a repertoire of sonic (or any other) materials within a permanent group of people. The development of the collective sound depends on a sufficient number of sessions working together with all members present. That these sessions are performed before an audience or not, is beside the point. This second model does not present much interest if the members of the group are homogeneous in their background, notably if they acquired their professional status in the same kind of educational institutions and the same processes of qualification. If they are not different in some important respect, the first model seems to be more adequate, as there is no difficulty in building a collective sound world directly through improvised performance on stage. But if they are different, and above all if they are very different, the idea of building a collective sound material, or a collective artistic material, is not a simple task. On the one hand, the differences between participants have to be maintained, they have to be strictly respected in mutual terms. On the other hand, building something together will imply that each participant is ready to leave behind reflexes, habits, and traditional ways of behavior. This is a first paradoxical situation. Another paradox immediately becomes apparent adding to the complication: on the one hand, the material that is collectively developed has to be more elaborate than just the superimposition of discourses in order to qualify as co-constructions; and, on the other hand, the material should not become fixed in a structuration, as would be the case with a written composition, the material should remain open to improvisation manipulations and variations, to be realized at the actual moment of the improvisation performance. The performers should remain free to interact as they see fit on the spirit of the moment. This second model does not exclude public performance on stage but cannot be limited to this obligation. It is centered on collective processes and might involve other types of social output and interactions.
The challenges of the second model are directly linked to debates about the means to be developed in order to break down the walls. To face these challenges, it is not enough to just gather people of different origins or cultures in the same room and expect that more profound relationships will develop. It is also not sufficient to invent new methodologies appropriate for a given situation, to ensure that a miracle of pacific coexistence will occur. In order to face complexity, you need to develop situations in which you should have a number of ingredients:
- Each participant has to know in practical ways what all the other participants are about.
- Each participant is obligated to follow collective rules decided together.
- Each participant should retain an important margin of personal initiative and remains free to express differences.
- There can be processes in which a leadership can emerge, but on the whole the context should remain on a democratic level.
All this complexity demonstrates the virtues of pragmatic tinkering within the framework of this plan of action.
As the sociologist and jazz pianist David Sudnow showed when he described the learning processes of his hands that enabled him to produce jazz improvisations: sound and visual models, although essential to the definition of objectives to be attained, are not sufficient to produce real results through simple imitation:
When my teacher said, “now that you can play tunes, try improvising melodies with the right hand,” and when I went home and listened to my jazz records, it was as if the assignment was to go home and start speaking French. There was this French going on, streams of fast-flowing strange sounds, rapidly winding, styles within styles in the course of any player’s music. (Sudnow 2001, p. 17)
Some degree of “tinkering about” is necessary to allow the participants to achieve their purposes through heterogeneous detours of their own, outside the logical framework given by the teacher.
The idea of dispositif (apparatus, plan of action) associated with “tinkering about” corresponds to the definition found in the dictionary: an “ensemble of means disposed according to a plan in order to do a precise action”. One can refer to the definition given by Michel Foucault as “a resolutely heterogeneous ensemble, comprising discourses, institutions, architectural amenities, regulatory decisions, laws, administrative arrangements, scientific enunciations, philosophical, moral and philanthropic statements, some explicitly stated, some implicitly unsaid…” (Foucault 1977, see also the station timbre, line “Improvisation” in the first edition of paalabres.org)
In applying this idea to a co-production of sonic or gestural materials in the domain of artistic practices, the institutional elements of this definition are indeed present, but the emphasis is here directed towards the network of the elements created through everyday action, which are contextualized by given agents and materials. Thus, the means are defined here as concerning, at the same time, the persons concerned, their social and hierarchical status within a given artistic community, the materials, instruments and techniques that are provided or already developed, the spaces in which the actions take place, the particular interactions – formalized or not – between participants, between participants and materials or techniques, and the interactions with the external world outside the group. The dispositifs are more or less formalized by charters of conduct, protocols of action, scores or graphic images, rules pertaining to the affiliation to the group, evaluation processes, learning and research procedures. To a great extent, however, the dispositifs are governed on an everyday basis in an “oral” manner, in contexts that can change radically according to circumstances, and through interactions, which by their instability can produce very different results.
4. Artistic Processes or just Human Interactions?
The idea of dispositif, or complex apparatus, at the same time denies that artistic acts be simply limited or confined to well identified autonomous objects, and it also enlarges considerably the scope of artistic endeavours. The network that continuously forms, informs and deforms itself cannot be limited to a single focus on the production of artistic materials for the benefit of a public. The processes are no longer defined in specific specialized spaces. The term improvisation is no longer strictly limited to a series of sacred principles of absolute freedom and spontaneity or, on the contrary, respect for any tradition. Improvisation can incorporate activities that involve a variety of media supports – including using writing on paper – to achieve results in particular contexts. The purity of clear and definitive positions can no longer be what should dictate all possible behaviour. This does not mean that ideals have been erased and that the values that one wants to place at the forefront of the reality of practices have lost their primordial importance.
The confrontation of nomadic and transverse artistic practices to institutional imperative requirements may concern many areas: improvisation, research, music and art education, curriculum design, reviving traditional practices, etc. More and more artists find themselves in a situation in which their practice in strictly artistic terms is now considerably widened by what we call “mediation”, or mediating between a diversity of elements (see Hennion 1993 and 1995): pedagogical activities, popular education, community involvement, public participation, social interactions, hybrid characteristics between artistic domains, etc. The immersion of artistic activities into the social, educational, technological and political realms implies the utilization of research tools and of research partnerships with formal institutions as a necessary part of the elaboration of artistic objects or processes (see Coessens 2009, and the PaaLabRes’ station the artistic turn). Research practices in artistic domains need to a large extent the legitimacy and evaluation given by academic bodies, but it is equally important to recognize that they must be seen as part of an “eccentric science” (see Deleuze & Guatarri 1980, pp. 446-464), which considerably changes the meaning of the term “research”. The important questioning of these artists pertains directly to the very practice of conducting research: it tends to attempt to erase the usual strict separation between actors and observers, between the scientific orientation of the publication of results and other informal forms of presentation, and between the artistic act and reflections about it.
A possible nomadic and transverse response would be found along a pathway between the freedom of creative acts and the strict imposition of traditional canons. In this context, the creative act can no longer be seen as a simple individual expression asserting freedom in relation to a fiction of universality. The constitution of a particular collective, defining its own rules along the way, must play, in an unstable friction, against individual imaginative desires. To place somebody in a situation of research would mean to anchor the creative act on the formulation by a collective of a problematical process; the complete freedom of creation is now bound by collective interactions and to what is at stake in the process, without being limited by the strict rules of a given model. The creative act would cease to be considered as an absolute object in itself, and the accent would be put on the numerous mediations that determine it as a particular aesthetical and ethical context: the convergence at a certain moment of a number of participants into some form of project. The knots of this convergence need to be explicated not in terms of a particular desired result, but in terms of the constitution of some kind of chart of the problematic complexity of the situation at its inception: a system of constraints which deals with the interaction between materials, spaces, institutions, diverse participants (musicians, administrators, amateurs, professionals, theoreticians, students, general public, etc.), resources at hands, references, etc. According to Isabelle Stengers, the idea of constraint, as distinct from “conditions”, is not an imperative imposed from outside, nor a way to institute some legitimacy, but it requires to be satisfied in an undetermined manner open to many possibilities. The signification is determined a posteriori at the end of a process (Stengers 1996, 74). Constraints have to be taken into account, but do not define pathways that might be taken for the realization of the process. Systems of constraints apply best when very different people with different specialized fields are called to develop something together.
5. Protocols
We have called “protocols” collective research processes that take place before an improvisation and that will colour its content, then accumulate in the collective memory a repertoire of determined actions. The detail of this repertoire of actions is not fixed, nor is it necessarily decided that a given repertoire should be called up during an improvisation. The definition of the term protocol is obviously ambiguous and for many will seem to go completely against the ethics of improvisation. The term is linked to connotations of official, even aristocratic circumstances, where behaviour considered acceptable or respectable is completely determined: it refers to socially recognised modes of behaviour. Protocol is also used in the medical world to describe series of care acts to be followed (without omissions) in specific cases. It is not in the sense of these various contexts that we use the term.
The definition of protocol is here linked to written or oral instructions given to participants at the beginning of a collective improvisation that determine rules governing the relationships between persons or that define a particular sound, gestural or other type of material. It corresponds more or less to what you may find in dictionary (here French Larousse dictionary on-line): “Usages conformed to relationships between people in social life” and “Ensemble of rules, questions, etc. defining a complex operation”. The participants have to accept that in a limited time, some interaction rules in the group would be determined with the aim of building something together or to understand another point of view, to enter into playing with the others. Once these rules are experimented, when situations have been built, the protocol in itself can be forgotten in order that interactions less bound by rules of behaviour can take place, retrieving then the spirit of unplanned improvisation. The ideal, when determining a protocol, is to seek a collective agreement on its specific content, on the exact formulation of the rules. In fact, this rarely takes place in real situations, as different people understand rules in different ways. A protocol is most often proposed by one particular person, the important factor is to allow all present the possibility to propose other protocols, and also to be able to elaborate variations on the proposed protocol.
The contradiction that exists between the intensive preparation that improvisers impose on themselves individually and improvisation on stage that takes place “without preparation”, is now found at the collective level: intensive preparation of the group of improvisers must take place collectively before spontaneous improvisation can take place, using elements from the accumulated repertoire but without planning the details of what is going to happen. If the members of the collective have developed materials in common, they can now more freely call them up according to the contexts that arise during improvisation.
Thus we are in the presence of an alternation between, on the one hand, formalized moments of development of the repertoire and, on the other hand, improvisations which are either based on what one has just worked on or, more freely, on the totality of the possibilities given by the repertoire and also by what is external to it (fortuitous encounters between individual productions). The objective remains therefore that of putting the participants in real improvisational situations where one can determine one’s own path and in which ideally all the participants are in specific roles of equal importance.
Different types of protocols or procedures can be categorized, but care should be taken not to catalogue them in detail in what would look like a manual. In fact, protocols must always be invented or reinvented in each particular situation. Indeed, the composition of the groups in terms of the heterogeneity of the artistic fields involved, the levels of technical (or other) ability, age, of social background, geographical origin, different cultures, particular objectives in relation to the group’s situation, etc., must each time determine what the protocol proposes to do and therefore its contextual content.
Here are some of the categories of possible protocols among those we have explored:
- Coexistence of proposals. Each participant can define a particular sound and/or gestural movement. Each participant must maintain his or her own elaborate production throughout an improvisation. Improvisation therefore only concerns the temporality and the level of personal interventions in superimpositions or juxtapositions. The interaction takes place at the level of a coexistence of the various proposals in various combinations chosen at the time of the improvised performance. Variations can be introduced in the personal proposals.
- Collective sounds developed from a model. Timbres are proposed individually to be reproduced as best they can by the whole group in order to create a given collective sound.
- Co-construction of materials. Small groups (4 or 5) can be assigned to develop a coherent collective sound or body movements. The work is envisaged at the oral level, but each group can choose its own method of elaboration, including the use of paper notations. Then teach it to other groups in the manner of their choice.
- Construction of rhythmic structures (loops, cycles). The characteristic situation of this kind of protocol is the group arranged in a circle, each participant in turn (in the circle) producing an improvised short sound or gesture, all this in a form of musical “hoquet”. Usually the production of the sounds or gestures that loop in the circle is based on a regular pulse. Variations are introduced by silences in the regular flow, superimposing loops of varying lengths, rhythmic irregularities, etc.
- Clouds, textures, sounds and collective gestural movements – individuals drowned in the mass. Following the model developed by a number of composers of the second half of the twentieth century such as Ligeti and Xenakis, clouds or sound textures (this applies to gestures and body movements as well) can be developed from a given sonority distributed randomly over time by a sufficient number of people producing them. The collective produces a global sound (or global body movements) in which the individual productions are blended into the mass. Most of the time, improvisation consists in making the global sound or the movements evolve in a collective way towards other sound or gestural qualities.
- Situations of social interaction. Sounds or gestures are not defined, but the way of interacting between participants is. Firstly, there is the situation of moving from silence to collectively determined gestural and bodily movements (or to a sound), as in situations of warm-up or early stages of improvisation in which effective improvised play only begins when all participants have agreed in all senses of the word tuning : a) that which consists of instruments or bodies being in tune, b) that which concerns the collective’s test of the acoustics and spatial arrangement of a room to feel together in a particular environment, c) that which concerns the fact that the participants have agreed to do the same activity socially. This is for example what is called the prelude in European classical music, the alãp in North Indian classical music, a process of gradual introduction into a more or less determined sound universe, or to be determined collectively. Secondly, one or more actions can be prohibited in the course of an improvisation. Thirdly, the rules of the participants’ playing time, or of a particular structuring of the temporal course of the improvisation can be determined. Finally, one can determine behaviours, but not the sounds or gestures that the behaviours will produce.
- Objects foreign to an artistic field, for example, which have no function of producing sounds in the case of music, may be introduced to be manipulated by the collective and indirectly determine the nature of the sounds or gestures that will accompany this manipulation. The example that immediately comes to mind is that of the sound illustration of silent films. But there are an infinite number of possible objects to use in this situation. The attention of the participants is mainly focused on the manipulation of the object borrowed from another domain and not on the particular production of what the usual discipline requires.
6. Conclusion
The two concepts of dispositif and of system of constraints seem to be an interesting way to define artistic research, especially in the context of heterogeneous collective creative projects: collective improvisation, socio-political contexts of artistic acts, informal/formal relationships to institutions, Questions of transmission of knowledge and know-how, various ways of interacting between humans, between humans and machines, and between humans and non-humans. This widens considerably the scope of artistic acts: curriculum design, interdisciplinary research projects, teaching workshops (see François & al. 2007), become, in this context, fully-fledged artistic situations outside the exclusivity of performances on stage.
Today we are confronted with an electronic world of an extraordinary diversity of artistic practices and at the same time a multiplication of socially homogeneous networks. These practices tend to develop strong identities and hyper-specializations. This urgently forces us to work on the meeting of cultures that tend to ignore each other. In informal as well as formal spaces, within socially heterogeneous groups, ways of developing collective creations based on the principles of direct democracy should be encouraged. The world of electronic technologies increasingly allows access for all to creative and research practices, at various levels and without having to go through the institutional usual pathways. This obliges us to discuss the ways in which these activities may or may not be accompanied by artists working in formal or informal spaces. The indeterminate nature of these obligations – not in terms of objectives, but in terms of actual practice – brings us back to the idea of nomadic and transversal artistic acts.
1. The following musicians participated to this project: Laurent Grappe, Jean-Charles François, Karine Hahn, Gilles Laval, Pascal Pariaud et Gérald Venturi.
2. Derek Bailey defines “idiomatic” and “non-idiomatic” improvisation as a question of identity to a cultural domain, and not so much in terms of language content: “Non idiomatic improvisation has other concerns and is more usually found in so-called ‘free’ improvisation and , while it can be highly stylised, is not usually tied to representing an idiomatic identity.” (1992, p. xii)
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